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O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia

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mitch furness

04-30-2008 03:48:20




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This is a photo of a water storage in SE Queensland called lake Moogerah. Not sure of its capacity but it is at 44% which is its highest level in 12 years. It has been very dry in Eastern Australia since at least 1996. The range in the background is approx. 1000m high, the highest we get here. No snow falls here to add to water storages either. This photo is not too far from Rex's photos earlier.

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Mitch

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Pooh Bear

05-01-2008 10:35:22




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to dave2, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  

sherburne said: (quoted from post at 06:28:14 05/01/08) Any idea of the efficiency of the "pump and store potential energy" is?

Water must be pumped up by a lift pump(efficiency <100%) and then sent through a hydro-electric turbine(efficiency<100%) to recover the power.


It is utilized as a giant storage battery. At night when power usage is down TVA pumps water up the mountain to the lake. Then during peak usage times, instead of buying power from other sources, TVA brings the pumped storage facility online to generate power. It isn't 100% efficient but it is still cheaper than buying power from another utility.

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mj

05-01-2008 09:52:17




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to RobMD, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  

Pooh Bear said: (quoted from post at 13:18:29 04/30/08)..... Water is pumped to this mountaintop reservoir and then released to generate electricity when added power is needed by the TVA system.

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The plant works like a large storage battery. During periods of low demand, water is pumped from Nickajack Reservoir at the base of the mountain to the reservoir built at the top. It takes 28 hours to fill the upper reservoir. When demand is high, water is released via a tunnel drilled through the center of the mountain to drive generators in the mountain’s underground power plant.


Yeah ..... that's the way the Shoshone plant east of Glenwood Springs, Colo. works except that the power plant is above ground ..... it's been there for quite awhile ..... maybe 50-60 years? I didn't know that newer systems like that had been built ..... must be pretty cost-effective ..... the Raccoon Mtn. system appears to be quite a bit larger and probably has more up-to-date equipment. We need more of this type of generating capability I'm a-thinkin'. :)

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Rex in Australia

05-01-2008 01:16:40




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
On Ya Mitch! It is good to show what a great country this is. I have been away for work, so will have to find some more to put up.
Cheers,
Rex



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mitch furness

04-30-2008 13:19:12




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
Well no crocs in there for sure. This is located just west of Brisbane in Queensland which is just south of the natural extent of the salt water crocodile. This dam would be artificially stocked with fish of some sort, but i aint no fisher man.

This is the dams level after our summer 'wet'. Other dams locally partially filled but ourselves here in Toowoomba have storages at 9%, we are ready to start drinking recycled waters.

The dam's capacity is 83700 megalitres, currently at 37000 megalitres.

Mitch

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Pooh Bear

04-30-2008 12:18:29




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
We have the Raccoon Mountain Pumped Storage Facility.

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The Raccoon Mountain project is TVA’s largest hydro facility. Water is pumped to this mountaintop reservoir and then released to generate electricity when added power is needed by the TVA system.

Raccoon Mountain Pumped Storage Plant is located in southeast Tennessee on a site that overlooks the Tennessee River near Chattanooga.
The plant works like a large storage battery. During periods of low demand, water is pumped from Nickajack Reservoir at the base of the mountain to the reservoir built at the top. It takes 28 hours to fill the upper reservoir. When demand is high, water is released via a tunnel drilled through the center of the mountain to drive generators in the mountain’s underground power plant.

The area around Raccoon Mountain is a state-designated Wildlife Observation Area. The mountaintop is home to whitetail deer, woodchucks, gray foxes, and, of course, raccoons. The most compelling wildlife attraction of the area is a large wintering population of bald eagles, which can be sighted from the overlook as they hunt in the woods and waters.

Construction at Raccoon Mountain began in 1970 and was completed in 1978.
The reservoir constructed at the top of the mountain has 528 acres of water surface.
The dam at Raccoon Mountain’s upper reservoir is 230 feet high and 8,500 feet long. It’s the largest rockfill dam ever built by TVA.
Once the upper reservoir is full, the pumped-storage plant can provide 22 hours of continuous power generation.
The generating capacity of Raccoon Mountain is about 1,600 megawatts of electricity.

The Raccoon Mountain Visitor Center is open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. daily except major holidays. Tours of the power plant itself are no longer available, but the center has photographs and models to give visitors the same sort of experience.

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sherburne

05-01-2008 04:28:14




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to Pooh Bear, 04-30-2008 12:18:29  
Any idea of the efficiency of the "pump and store potential energy" is?
Water must be pumped up by a lift pump(efficiency <100%) and then sent through a hydro-electric turbine(efficiency<100%) to recover the power.



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David in Missouri

04-30-2008 11:20:30




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
I've visited the Grampians down in Victoria in October of 2002 and they were at about 50% then. Melbourne had to curtail washing cars etc. but the Yara River looked fine.



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greygoat

04-30-2008 10:40:40




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
Any Crocs in there?



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ken in texas

04-30-2008 08:09:23




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
Sure do enjoy the photos,would like to see more....



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Bendee

04-30-2008 07:35:29




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
You've had a lot of rain recently,what is its status now.?



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Howard H.

04-30-2008 07:14:07




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  

Hey Mitch -

Thanks for the pic!

You don't have to worry about crocodiles in there??

What sort of fishing would it have??

Howard



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Nebraska Cowman

04-30-2008 04:40:49




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 Re: O/T Water Storage Photo-Australia in reply to mitch furness, 04-30-2008 03:48:20  
That's sure beautiful country.



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