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OT: NYC shooting by police?

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gun guru

04-26-2008 17:01:29




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I read about 3 cops on NYC that shot a guy 50 times and then were aquitted of it, but they also say that the guy that was shot didnt do anything. (poor reporting here) The cops had to have shot him for something, I would think. I guess lots of people are really *issed off in NYC. And they should be if the cops shot an innocent person. Anybody know anything other then what Yahoo news is reporting.

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BobinKY

04-28-2008 18:48:43




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Hey guys. Looks like we have a lot of armchair quarterbacks here bashing the cops. I have to jump in here to give a kudos to the cops and the firefighters in our country. We send them out every day (or night)to deal with the trash and derelics of our society that we can"t or don"t want to deal with. We pay them a meager salary compared to the politicians who are ripping us off on a daily basis and then we criticize everything they do. I for one appreciate everything they do. I think we should tie their pay to the politicians so that any time politicians vote themselves a raise, the cops and the firefighters get one too. Thanks for letting me vent!

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1936

04-27-2008 05:33:39




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
About the same amount of lead to take down a Big Cat in Chi town. The Chi town Mayor and new top cop has put the M-4's on the streets to stop the gang bangers this week end, to cold for them to be moving. Chi town mayor on TV said the gun industry owns this country! The gun shops are doing very well with the women this spring. With the up coming election people who never owned a gun are buying.

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MarkB_MI

04-27-2008 04:57:06




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
From what I understand, the cops had reason to believe that the guy had a gun, which explains why they shot him. It doesn't explain why they felt the need to shoot him 50 times, which means they had to stop, reload and resume firing.

This case is not over. There will almost certainly be a wrongful death suit, and the standard of proof in a civil trial is much less than it is in a criminal case.

Reverend Al is a opportunistic hatemonger, who is famous for being (in)famous, not because he has ever done anything constructive in his life.

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gun guru

04-27-2008 05:29:31




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to MarkB_MI, 04-27-2008 04:57:06  
I agree Al Sharpton is a hatemongering pig. He will use any chance he can to preach hate about Whitey and the "system" that supresses the Brothers.



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jose bagge

04-27-2008 04:41:54




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Sharpton is a hate-mongerer and a con-man who should have been tossed in prison for orchestrating the whole Brawley scam.

These 3 known thugs closed a strip joint at 4 am and started talking smack and threatening a gunfight while in the parking lot with other patrons. One apparently had his hand in his pocket motioning to another "patron" as if he had a gun.
They then drove off, and deliberately or drunkenly repeatedly struck several cars including the undercover unit.
Race of the officers? Unknown to me, but I would imagine that if they were undercover in that part of town that not all were white.

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pdz180

04-27-2008 03:16:02




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Hours before he was to be married, a man leaving his bachelor party at a strip club in Queens that was under police surveillance was shot and killed.

In a statement, Commissioner Kelly said that about 4 a.m. a group of men confronted a man outside the strip club and that one man in the group yelled, “Yo, get my gun.”

The altercation broke up, and the men separated into two groups, with an undercover officer following one group. The men being followed by the undercover officer got into the Altima that then hit the minivan.

The police said that one officer who leaped from the minivan, a 12-year police veteran, fired 31 times, and an undercover officer with nine years on the force fired 11 times. The other officers fired three, four and five times. Shell casings from the officers’ 16-shot, 9-millimeter semiautomatic weapons littered the street; at least 40 were later recovered. A fourth person may have been in the Altima, police said.

Witnesses told of chaos, screams and a barrage of gunfire near Club Kalua at 143-08 94th Avenue in Jamaica about 4:15 a.m. after Mr. Bell and his friends walked out and got into their car. Mr. Bell drove the car half a block, turned a corner and struck a black unmarked police minivan bearing several plainclothes officers.

Mr. Bell’s car then backed up onto a sidewalk, hit a storefront’s rolled-down protective gate and nearly struck an undercover officer before shooting forward and slamming into the police van again, the police said.

In response, five police officers fired at least 50 rounds at the men’s car, a silver Nissan Altima; the bullets ripped into other cars and slammed through an apartment window near the shooting scene on Liverpool Street near 94th Avenue.

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BushogPapa

04-26-2008 20:18:32




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Come on now, when was the LAST time YOU heard of a cop being found Guilty of anything..??

It sure took them a long time to get their story dreamed up...

I know around these parts, they have gotten away with maiming and Murder repeatedly..and I am not black...

Sad thing that cops don't "set the mark" for us to live up to anymore...quite the contrary...

Believe the cops, NOPE, not on this one...Hope the rioting shuts the city down for good...!

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gun guru

04-27-2008 03:50:11




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 21 years ago a real bad cop/crash story in reply to BushogPapa, 04-26-2008 20:18:32  
21 years ago a good friend of mine was stopped at a red light and a cop in a cop car came around him and ran the red light. *WHAM* the cop T-boned another car and in the other car there were 2 women in it. The women were killed instantly, in fact they were thrown from the car and 150' up the street, blood everywhere. The cop Was NOT on the way to a call. The cop walked away free, no jail time, no probation that my friend knows of. Moral of the story: You can commit manslaughter carelessly with a cop car and you are innocent, if your a cop. My friend had to go to a small hearing to discuss what he saw at the accident, because he was a witness. This accident happened in Mt. Clemens Michigan in June 1987. My friend is now 47 years old and he says he will never forget this accident or the look of those 2 women and their bodies from that accident.

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Larry59

04-26-2008 19:54:59




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
If someone tried to run over me with his car. I would shoot him and most others would to. Rev. is doing his thing trying to stir things up. Just so he can be a big man around and get paid to go to meetings. Kind of like goverment people..lol Al Gore is a good one. lol



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wdTom

04-26-2008 18:42:35




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Very few people get shot by the police unless they were doing something they shouldn't have been. Maybe we just got rid of more trouble makers without a long expensive trial. I will admit the police seem to need more target practice.



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Ron Anderson

04-26-2008 17:42:27




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
Seems as though there should be more target practice so they don't have to waste so much ammo. Kinda hard to claim rascism as two of the cops were black. The newspapers seem to sensationalize without saying what started it. Sounds like the guy was driving the car and hit one of the officers. Wouldn't that be deadly force?



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sandknob

04-26-2008 17:19:18




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
By the way this is from the information I could find on the internet, and two or three places agreed fairly well on the info. Take it or leave it as we all know how todays media works!!!



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sandknob

04-26-2008 17:17:10




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to gun guru, 04-26-2008 17:01:29  
What I understand is that the cops were (plain clothes cops) undercover. They were running survelence on a strip joint that they suspected of prostitution. One of the fellows this guy was with got in an argument with a woman inside the place and as they were leaving mumbled something to one of the others about getting his gun. Well as the cops heard this they thought there would be a shooting, so they went outside to check on it and told the fellows to stop. The driver (one that was killed I believe took off and as he was leaving bumped one opf the cops with the car and then hit an unmarked police minivan. Not sure were the shooting came into play, but take it that it was after they took off. People are now claiming racism, although two of the cops were black, and the first to fire was black????? All three fellows that were shot had previous drug charges against them.
I honestly think some of these p[eople are trying to stir the pot.

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dlplost

04-26-2008 20:54:45




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to sandknob, 04-26-2008 17:17:10  
Your story is correct, except that the guy that started the shooting was an undercover cop that was the first to pul his gun and pointed it at the guy in the car, and started yelling, BUT NEVER identified himself as a cop.

All this happened 3 years ago, just went to trial..cops were found not guilty.



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RayP(MI)

04-26-2008 18:03:55




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to sandknob, 04-26-2008 17:17:10  
That's about what I remember. Fellow who was shot hardly behaved like a upstanding citizen, and indeed did drive at an officer.



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Bendee

04-26-2008 20:14:44




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 Re: OT: NYC shooting by police? in reply to RayP(MI), 04-26-2008 18:03:55  
Will never know the circumstances but 50 shots and nothing the other way pardon but that's an overkill.Dirty Harry should come on board as a consultant.



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