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Rear tire protection for bush hogging

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BLINDHAWG

04-22-2008 20:48:38




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Opinions please. I have 40 acs of neglected pasture I'm "restoring". Lots of 2" saplings which hate tractor tires. I need new rear tires on my Ford 640, but I hate to put new tires on and ruin them. What if, I was to take two old tires some what larger than mine and remove the bead and side wall and wrap the tread around the partially deflated tires. The ends would be bolted together with carriage bolts (round head to the inside, nuts out). Reinflating the tires would make the treads fit snug on the tires. Treads would provide traction and protection. I know, there are products out there to obtain the same results,i.e.,forestry tires, liners,foam, etc. but they're expensive and I love the challenge to solve a problem cheap! What do you think??? Would it work? Anybody ever try it? Thanks.

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Leland

04-24-2008 21:32:20




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
rent a bobcat with tracks about the same as new tires ,they also have a brush shredder attachment you can rent with the machine that will eat saplings faster than any tractor mounted bush hog .



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JoshuaGA

04-23-2008 20:01:11




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
Hire out the work. That's just too much abuse and too much danger for me to even consider it. A weeks rental of a bulldozer ain't bad, 40 hours should run a grand to a grand and a half. Much cheaper and safer in my mind to have the right equipment and not trying to make due.

JoshuaGA



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John A.

04-23-2008 19:54:00




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
BLINDHAWG, I saw that done on an 856 years ago the infalation of the tire kept the tire from spinning inside the cap tire in most situations except being in mud! Worked pretty good the guy was pulling a 15ft batwing shredder, in Texas Mesquite country.
My point is set your shredder on the hard, dry, ground, adjust so the shredder skimms the ground, I MEAN SKIM THE GROUND! Have a good overruning clutch, for your tractor if it doesn't have LPTO.
Travel slow, run the engine at the PTO line on the tack. A good heavy shredder will make mincemeat of 2in saplings. The shredder will eat up, and spit out the back 99% of the saplings that includes the root porition the shredder jerks out of the ground. What little bit is sticking up will be of no concequece.
After you finish then go buy your new tires!
Later,
John A.

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Texasmark

04-23-2008 08:51:46




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
I have seen tires of a larger size with the sidewalls cut out and placed over the regular tractor tire to add a buffer between the tractor and the hazards. Some are tied on and others are bolted to the tractor tire and then the tube is reinstalled and aired up.

Or an 8 ply tractor tire would help.

On slung debris, I personally prefer chains mounted on the front of the mower.

Mark



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Billy NY

04-23-2008 08:04:30




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
I've had to deal with those type of conditions, have new 4 ply firestones field and road, loaded tires, which are not as tough as the 8 ply's that were on this tractor before, and I've expected to puncture them when I cleared our overgrown fields perimiters, has not happened ( knocking on wood !)

The saving grace is that I use the loader to bend these trees over or push em out, usually just bends em over, then with the mower up high, it de-limbs them and sometimes shortens the trunk, depends on how it hits the blades, sometimes you can make another pass on the next round going the SAME way, other times you can't, for fear of those stubs and what they could do to the tires or other things. I've run over a lot of brush and short stumps, stubs mostly, and you can get thin stringy pieces of wood jammed in between the tire bead, which if not seen and removed, I've often wondered if would be a problem for tires. Most of the brush and vegetation here bends or gives, not like those giant thorns or other less forgiving brush/vegetation, even the thorn trees here don't seem to bother the tires, always a first time though ;)

If that 640 has no loader on it, that is going to be some hard mowing, bending trees over with the front axle, many times I use my bucket to glide over small trees, mash em down so the mower does not take a direct hit, and nothing comes up to get me in the seat, mower takes more of a glancing blow. I usually try to avoid all saplings when possible, unless under a 1-2" with the 850 and 6' mower, I'd imagine a heavier built mower would work fine on these, but you need more than a 45 HP tractor to do it.

It sounds interesting, but if you are in conditions that are puncturing those old tires already, I'd think the same would happen if they were used like you suggest, what's stopping those stubs from puncturing both. I'd painstakingly cut them with a small light limbing size chainsaw, cleanest job you'll get, doing sections at a time, with a few helpers similarly equipped or rent a mid sized to large dozer with a rear mounted ripper, scarifier, or a front root rake to tear the roots underneath if it has to be done quickly. There is equipment out there that will handle this size brush, rental or additional costs, or hired done, That is a tall order with a 640 and brush hog, each time you hit one of those trees with the mower it's a heavy shock load, 40 acres worth, whole lot of abuse to that tractor, no way my 850 would deal with it unless the trees were soft like sumac, we have white birch, cherry and others from 1" to 8" in our old fields and the 1" ones still sound like you hit a landmine when you mow over one with it up high.

My opinion, next least expensive option, if faced with the same task here, I'd be up to the rental house looking for a dozer for the week, hopefully having time left over to dress the site up after clearing, and even if quickly done, once knocked over, it will still be a bumpy and risky ride with the 640, but eventually if you keep at it, the vegetation can be kept in check and those stumps and chunks of wood will rot, though if you are getting punctures now, could happen then next time.

Do use lots of care, I keep mentioning on here, the guy nearby who got bumped off his 600 ford and ended up under the mower, while reclaiming some overgrown land, this can get ugly real quick.

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Lee in Iowa

04-23-2008 07:35:21




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
When I did some CRP ground that had lots of small trees, I just made sure I never drove where I had already mowed. A little hard to do sometimes, but I never had a flat. Lee



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old

04-22-2008 21:24:31




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
Steel wheels or track drive is the best option. Or of course fill the tires with foam but that is not cheap either



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RobMD

04-22-2008 20:58:09




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
just, uhh, run the old tires.



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BLINDHAWG

04-22-2008 21:00:20




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to RobMD, 04-22-2008 20:58:09  
Tried that, old tires weak, punched a hole big enough to stuff a cat into!



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Jamesd22

04-22-2008 20:56:16




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 Re: Rear tire protection for bush hogging in reply to BLINDHAWG, 04-22-2008 20:48:38  
This had been done in the past and I've heard it works pretty good.



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