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5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A

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rtucker

04-19-2008 07:59:56




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Forgot to mention that I have already changed the receiver dryer, expansion valve, 2 out of the 3 hoses, blown out remaining components (pice by piece), replaced the low pressure switch, charged system, added 4 oz. oil. Do I need to replace low pressure switch, if not, is this compatable with R134? I have no leaks in the system.




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Bob

04-19-2008 08:04:39




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to rtucker, 04-19-2008 07:59:56  
What kind of oil did you use?



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rtucker

04-19-2008 08:09:34




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to Bob, 04-19-2008 08:04:39  
I used Ester Oil.



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rtucker

04-19-2008 08:20:30




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to rtucker, 04-19-2008 08:09:34  
I am trying to find out what the proper charge for this system is or any other info. 3.8 lb.? I have gotten different responses from various dealers.



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Peteh

04-20-2008 20:52:09




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to rtucker, 04-19-2008 08:20:30  
The AP Air site calls for 3.5 lbs of 134A. (See link below)



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rtucker

04-21-2008 16:42:33




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to Peteh, 04-20-2008 20:52:09  
Thank you. Very helpful. Nobody could tell me what was in this unit.



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Bob

04-19-2008 12:32:46




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to rtucker, 04-19-2008 08:20:30  
About 80% of the amount of R-12 that was originally "spec'ed". (Sorry, I don't know that figure!)

As you add refrigerant, the system will start to cool.

The large (suction) line leaving the evaporator will be at ambient temp. As you add R-134, the line will eventually start to cool. When this happens, you are getting close to the correct charge. If you continue to add refrigerant, eventually, the suction line will be cool and have condensation all the way to the compressor.

Charge it beyond the condensation getting CLOSE to the compressor, and you risk liquid getting into the compressor and breaking things.

I tend to UNDERCHARGE these sytems a bit, as the compressor is already working harder than originally, since R-134 runs a higher "head pressure" for a given condensor temperature.

I feel that a systeem cooling at perhaps 90% of capacity is better than trying for 100%-plus, and blowing a line or a compressor.

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rtucker

04-21-2008 16:40:56




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 Re: 5488 IHC-Converting R12 to R134A in reply to Bob, 04-19-2008 12:32:46  
Thank You.



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