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Dandy Don

04-18-2008 11:40:10




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I wonder if someone could explain this progam to me simplely. Maybe one of the BIG farmers? so I could wake up every morming and say the government is good. Don




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JoeBob/IN

04-18-2008 19:16:17




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to Dandy Don, 04-18-2008 11:40:10  
Kinda sounds sarcastic there and a bit like you are trying to provoke a fight. However I will tell ya how it works. At a certain price level the government kicks in money to provide a floor. Now, that floor is just below, at, or just above the break even price level. Last year this year and possibly never again the LDP program didn't get used, for corn and soys anyways since the price level was above the floor level. It is the gov'ts fault they had to support the farmers... well not really but kinda. So, complain about the subsidy and have cheap food or get rid of them and watch thousands of farmers go broke and a few huge farms run prices up so you pay more for your food but no subsidy or let things go as they did and the prices of commodities finally reach a decent income level for us farmers and we still catch heck. Oh well.

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paul

04-18-2008 15:03:31




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to Dandy Don, 04-18-2008 11:40:10  
Currently there is no farm program at all - it is being debated in Congress, has been extended several times over winter to cover the food stamp & other social welfare programs, but not applicable to farmers. Most of the bills Congress is looking at the President says he will veto, and then back to start over, so....

There is nothing out there right now. It expired last crop year.


The old farm bill had 3 seperate programs for grain farmers. The LDP you mention is one of them.

The govt, in it's wisdom, figures out a low-ball grain target price. If grain falls below that price, you can sign up for LDP, and get the difference between the actual price of grain and the target price. You must have already harvested the grain, but you do not need to sell it on the day you claim the LDP.

It's been 2 years since there has been much of an LDP for any crops. I think very early crops of beans in 06 got a nickel or so for the beans if you could claim it early.

Again, that was the old program. There is much talk of keeping an LDP in the new farm bill, but as of today, there is nothing at all.

LDP would sort of be like a minimum wage for you. It's so low it's laughable, but it's all the govt offers. In your case your employer has to pay you minimum wage or cut your job. Since farmers sell to international markets, the govt takes over that 'minumum wage' payment.

Would you really be happy to be working for minumum wage????

--->Paul

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flying belgian

04-18-2008 18:58:10




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to paul, 04-18-2008 15:03:31  
Your analogy of compairing it to minimum wage is the most acurate explaination I have ever heard. Well said.



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ejr-IA

04-18-2008 13:20:07




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to Dandy Don, 04-18-2008 11:40:10  
Our current county safty net is 1.85 on corn as you know corn price is 5.00 plus so their is no loan defficiency payment being paid to farmers.



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dddd

04-18-2008 11:56:47




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to Dandy Don, 04-18-2008 11:40:10  
when the local market value is lower than the price set by the feds they (local fsa) pay you the difference. You can contact your local fsa office to see if and when the payments start. not a big farmer but these are the same big or small maybe the BIG guys know something we don't



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Gerald J.

04-18-2008 11:54:34




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 Re: LDP progam in reply to Dandy Don, 04-18-2008 11:40:10  
If the market price in your county is below the county's target price, you can be paid a Loan Defficiency Payment equal to the difference on all grain that you own. You can apply earlier for grain to be sold out of the field and you get the LDP of the day of harvest. So LDP program sets a minimum county price. The market and target prices are set by a committee in your county, not necessarily based on CBOT and local elevators. It is possible to have contracted grain for a higher price than the county target, yet to collect LDP on the price of the day, not based on what you contracted for.

In 2005 I contracted corn at mid summer for $2.14. LDP price $1.95. On the day I delivered my corn the county market price was $1.45. So I got 50 cents LDP and a cash price of $2.64 for that corn. It usually hadn't worked that good. Maybe a dime a bushel up based on daily variations.

Gerald J.

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