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Walt davies

04-12-2008 09:42:50

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OK today its going to be 75 that's about 10 to 15 degrees above normal, so to make up for that they said it may snow on Tuesday. Talk about crazy weather.
Anyway i used the nice weather to repair my driveway, put the box scraper on the Kubota and chiseled and scraped it to get rid of the winter chuck holes. Mama was really complaining when we went to town on Friday morning.
Walt

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Trapper Boy in IN

04-13-2008 10:36:56

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

We watched Inconvenient Truth in science class at school. I told the teacher that was all bull crap and he let me sleep through it. best nap I had in a while.

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Coffee Helps

04-12-2008 20:11:08

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

For Marlowe & So? Yes, snow was up to the belt here. But for the past SEVERAL years, I'd say the ice has been thinner. Back in the 1950's & 1960's, you'd shovel snow off the slough for skating & there'd be thick enough ice there. So I'm just wondering if there's more going on than snow depth? Remember how Grandparents used to describe tough Winters? (Walking to school in it?) Ice skating is not so great anymore. End.

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Eric SEI

04-12-2008 19:28:08

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Here is something Al Gore does NOT want you to read. It seems that the snowmelt in the antarctic was down by 40% this past winter.

Link

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Walt davies

04-12-2008 18:33:50

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Boy!!! It was just a joke heading I didn't want to start a fight I was just wondering why this winter is real winter. Sometimes you guys take me to seriously. Anyway it was a great day today so bring on the snow.
Walt

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Ryan - WI

04-12-2008 18:03:42

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

chuck403C said:

Type in " inconvenient truth errors" and you can read about it all day. Remember the picture of the polar bears "stranded" on the ice floe? They were right next to the shore. The picture had been cropped to give the illusion that they were far out in the ocean.
A start to the lies

All of the articles I can find pertaining to the UK case indicate the judge did not object to the overall conclusions in the case that global warming is happening and it is being escalated by humans. It is very difficult to prove something in court. Circumstantial evidence, no matter the quantity or likelyhood can not be relied upon to prove anything.

I did read through the 11 objections and they seem pretty minor to me. I would liken it to saying that since your tractor now has aftermarket wheels and a seat from the farm store it is not a John Deere. There may be a few things that aren't perfect but it is still what it is.
Keep in mind that until the late 1990's it could not be proved in a court of law that tobacco causes cancer. It really still can't. In fact there are still some scientists who dispute the fact that tobacco causes cancer or that nicotine is addictive.

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Chuck403C

04-12-2008 18:13:57

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ryan - WI, 04-12-2008 18:03:42

" In fact there are still some scientists who dispute the fact that tobacco causes cancer or that nicotine is addictive"

So scientists disagree. It happens all the time.

some scientists say global warming or cooling ( whatever it is at the time) is made.

Many scientists say it isn't.

Who is right?

The ones that say it is are promoting global taxation through the UN. Are you into paying a global tax every time you fartt?

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Chuck403C

04-12-2008 18:17:21

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Chuck403C, 04-12-2008 18:13:57

Here's some more.

Hoax

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1936

04-12-2008 17:54:16

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

It was just written that his house in TN cost 2400 dollars a month to heat and cool. The prez house in TX run about 800 dollars a month. Every 100,000 years the world has an ice age. The last got down to about NY state level. Lets hear it for FL.

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lucas boy

04-12-2008 17:44:52

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

gore invented the internet,a guy that smart has to be right.. lcas

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Roscoes Kuzin

04-12-2008 17:09:14

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

There is no mud on the tires.

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Coffee Helps

04-12-2008 17:03:00

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Just a couple items:
1. It seems mankind ought to be a little cautious- look at the "hole in the ozone", from a few years back. So maybe seemingly little things (activities) can cause large changes.
2. The shrinking of what is left of the mountain glaciers in the Rockies seems pretty alarming. Look at like Mt. Moran's glacier in the Tetons. There are others I could mention.
3. We used to ice skate on ponds around here (SW Wis.) and this Winter I could never even trust the ice to walk out on it. OK, maybe the sun is just getting hotter. But for myself, the jury is still out.

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marlowe

04-12-2008 18:45:36

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Coffee Helps, 04-12-2008 17:03:00

well da!!!! no ice because we were as-hole deep in snow

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So?

04-12-2008 17:09:23

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Coffee Helps, 04-12-2008 17:03:00

And the ice in the Minnesota Lakes was thicker than usual by a long shot this year.

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730 virgil

04-12-2008 19:47:37

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Chuck403C, 04-12-2008 16:51:12

they eat more beans to go with all the bs they spread. that makes more stinky hot air!

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Mr. Bob

04-12-2008 18:30:47

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to KYfarm, 04-12-2008 16:11:55

I think that basically that AlGore is insane. I believe that he actually believes the bull pucky about global warming that he blows off at the mouth about, and is not above using it to make himself even richer yet. He's nuts, but not stupid, I'll give him that. Mr. Bob

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Ryan - WI

04-12-2008 15:56:54

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Spook, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Bill(Wis) said: (quoted from post at 15:06:35 04/12/08) On the contrary. In England, where the film was being shown to all school children, a British High Court judge has just ruled that the Al Gore film contains no less than nine scientific errors and in order for the film to be legally shown the opposing points of view must also be presented. This ruling came about because a Kent school governor attempted to ban the film from being shown because of it's outright, blatant errors/lies.

I am not intending to call you a liar. I am truly curious. What are the errors and who says they are errors?

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chuck403C

04-12-2008 16:06:31

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ryan - WI, 04-12-2008 15:56:54

"I am not intending to call you a liar. I am truly curious. What are the errors and who says they are errors?"

Type in " inconvenient truth errors" and you can read about it all day. Remember the picture of the polar bears "stranded" on the ice floe? They were right next to the shore. The picture had been cropped to give the illusion that they were far out in the ocean.

A start to the lies

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Wayne from Wi

04-12-2008 15:40:10

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

All of you know Algore is full of himself(shutt). Temperature goes up and it goes down regardless of what humans do. We are so insignificant, we make no difference at all. This planet is so huge, and has existed so long, we are a fart in the wind. If it gets warm, water evaporates from oceans,lakes, etc., and adjusts itself.... Thermosyphon,and self cools as is required.. End of story . No BS. Wayne

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Ultradog MN

04-12-2008 15:27:25

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Is Al sweating because of the temperature? Or is it because he's worried he'll be found out as a fraud? I suspect it's the latter.

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DiyDave

04-12-2008 15:39:36

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ultradog MN, 04-12-2008 15:27:25

Hmm- What's algore thinking... Oh my, its awfully dark in here... how did I get my head stuffed so far up my tuchas?

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Bret4207

04-12-2008 15:12:23

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

And once again I will point out some REAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENDCE. The polar "ice" (frozen CO2) caps on Mars are melting. There's also warming on Pluto or Uranus, one of the ones way out there. Now if Al Gore can tell me how MAN is influencing weather on Mars I'll eat my hat! Climates change naturally, weather patterns change. But the Earths climate is affected by 2 things- the Sun and the Oceans, especially the Pacific. The Sun warms the Oceans- temps climb. The Sun doesn't warn the Ocean, like when My Punitumbo (SP) or Krakatoa (sp) blew up, and it cools.

The problem is Al Gore won't make millions on that "Inconvenient Truth"!!!!

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dave guest

04-12-2008 15:00:47

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Uncle Sam has to find broken things so we can help fix it. Whether or not it's really broken doesn't matter.

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Chris in MO

04-12-2008 14:23:17

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Warm today....cold a couple of days from now. A good way to describe normal spring weather.

IMO, the weather on this planet is complicated and influenced by so many factors, and there are "global" weather cycles which play out over centuries or even millenia. To think that a group of anyones can tell us what the weather is doing and why, based on the "scientific" records of just the last couple hundred years would take a tremendous leap of faith. Yes faith.

We are about to have a very untimely freeze here in southern Missouri. This will be the second year in a row. I guess someone will say that this is the result of disturbed weather patterns caused by global warming. I don't care. Cold is cold. Two years in a row with no fruit from our trees and a bunch of freeze damage to prune out... that is cold.

I have spent most of my life listening to chicken littles running around screaming that the sky is falling and it is all our fault. It gets real old. In my opinion, this is all about power and money. Same as always.

But what can you do????

Christopher

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Spook

04-12-2008 14:37:05

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Chris in MO, 04-12-2008 14:23:17

Actually, when you look at statistics, a couple hundred data points should give you a pretty good statistical picture. And other data, like ice cores from the polar regions, and the retreat of glaciers, support the theory. Most scientists agree with it, but some disagree on details.

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chuck 403 C

04-12-2008 14:49:10

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Spook, 04-12-2008 14:37:05

The glaciers have been melting for 10,000 years. What caused it?

Global warming is a hoax

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Walt davies

04-12-2008 18:20:33

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to chuck 403 C, 04-12-2008 14:49:10

Automobiles DUMMY LOL
Walt

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IH 1466

04-12-2008 14:11:14

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

After all Al invented the internet. He is a smart guy.

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Bill(Wis)

04-12-2008 13:12:25

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

It's been snowing all over Wisconsin all day today. Our hottest year was 1936. That's the year I was born and a long time before Algore was born.

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Dave from MN

04-12-2008 13:07:35

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Al Gore is thinking that all us lower, and soon to be eliminated middle class, are the ones that actually give a darn about this country and its land and air. There fore, he can get paid to due speeches on global warming and make it the "feel good" fad for the next 20 years. Us poorer and middle folks will be the ones changing our habits, going green, paying the taxes, making the donations, and all that stuff that good people will do their part for. Mean while, ALL them companies that poeple like he own, have stock on, or are being paid by to promote "global warming, can make a fortune from all us, and at the same time, we all will be improving his world if it's it will make a difference, all with no cost or lifestyle change from him and his groupies. Allright PC crowd, this is MY befief and nothing I said here is from any factual study from any kind. Ever seen the movie "Antz", we are the workers, they are the big shots, I dont think we will ever be able change it like they little worker ants did at the end of the movie.

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dr sportster

04-12-2008 12:51:04

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

I myself beleive there has been some change because;Pond had seven inch thich ice when I was a kid.Lawn tractors drove on it to plow etc.My dad had organized winter carnavals for the town etc.Same pond has not had skating for years.Only things that freeze are the slabs like basketball courts or where the water turns to all ice.However one hour north ponds freeze just fine.But whatever lattitude Im on definatly got warmer.

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Spook

04-12-2008 14:17:16

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to dr sportster, 04-12-2008 12:51:04

I agree, this winter has been pretty stout, but it isn't near what I remember as a kid. I remember thousands of cars on the lakes here, ice fishing. And those were heavy cars! And we could ice fish from December thru February. Lakes don't even freeze over until January now, and sometimes not even then. But the real issue will be decided by data, how the temperatures change over time. It will always vary, but the issue is is it trending up or not?

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Ryan - WI

04-12-2008 12:29:47

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Ordinarily I would agree with you that the man is full of crap. The other day my wife had borrowed his documentary from the library and had it in while I was working in the next room but could see the tv. The man does appear to have some points that have some pretty solid scientific observation behind them.

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Joe from MN.

04-12-2008 14:12:14

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ryan - WI, 04-12-2008 12:29:47

HE CAN FOOL SOME OF US --- BUT NOT ALL OF US ...

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Bill(Wis)

04-12-2008 13:06:35

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ryan - WI, 04-12-2008 12:29:47

On the contrary. In England, where the film was being shown to all school children, a British High Court judge has just ruled that the Al Gore film contains no less than nine scientific errors and in order for the film to be legally shown the opposing points of view must also be presented. This ruling came about because a Kent school governor attempted to ban the film from being shown because of it's outright, blatant errors/lies.

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rrlund

04-12-2008 12:42:31

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Ryan - WI, 04-12-2008 12:29:47

No offense intended,but some of you guys have got to learn to distinguish between science and politics. What's next Michael Moore makes "Real Documentaries"?

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Lanse

04-12-2008 11:34:37

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

it was 70 or so yesterday at this time, now its 40 and windy.

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Bill(Wis)

04-12-2008 11:07:48

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Speaking of driveways and weather, that reminds me of a 51 year old man near Warwick, NY who had a lot of ice on his driveway. He got tired of listening to his wife complain about it so, after a few beers one Saturday afternoon, he poured gasoline on it and set it on fire. He then slipped on the ice and fell into the fire. He was airlifted to a burn center.

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Gun guru

04-12-2008 10:27:58

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Al Gore was thinking..... Gee...I should have kept my mouth shut about gun rights in the 2000 election cause I could have been the prez. Thank God he isnt, Al Gore needs to climb back into the sewer in Tennessee where he came from.

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rrlund

04-12-2008 09:55:28

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Walt davies, 04-12-2008 09:42:50

Algore's thinking $$$$s and power. Sound like these systems are moving backwards if you're supposed to get it Tuesday. We're supposed to be getting rid of it and going the other way by then.I'm sitting here with a full load of manure on the spreader and nowhere on 300 acres that I can get on to spread it.

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Just a thought

04-12-2008 11:24:17

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to rrlund, 04-12-2008 09:55:28

How close do you live to DC?

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rrlund

04-12-2008 12:39:04

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to Just a thought, 04-12-2008 11:24:17

Not close enough unfortunately. And the wind isn't blowing hard enough in that direction.

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onefarmer

04-12-2008 12:53:31

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Re: What's Al gore thinking in reply to rrlund, 04-12-2008 12:39:04

I don't think they need any more of that spread around in DC. They make and spread their own. Now if they was put up some windmills..... .

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