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TimWafer

04-08-2008 07:55:35




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I’m looking at a JD 12A pull type combine. Problem is it would be a 300-mile haul home. I have an Eager Beaver 9ton deckover trailer. Combine is apparently 10’ 6” overall width and 8’8” outside the tires. My deck is just 8’ wide and don’t know what kind of headaches the overall width would give me. This would be through PA and NY. Any suggestions on hauling it?
Tim

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Bruce Hopf

04-08-2008 18:39:51




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
It would be alot easier if you got a transport company, to haul it for you. Less Than Freight loads are always avalible, for companies to make a back haulo worth while for them. Or a less than load for sombody, to pick up, that is heading in that dirrection to pick up a full load. Most transport companies that handle specialized loads already have the proper permits required by each state. I think, but don't quote me, but I think companies buy there specialized permits for the year, for each State, or Province the haul in.
Doing it this way would be cheaper than you driving empty 300 miles, and buying trip permits, unles you can take a load and deliver near the pice of equipment.
Now to load apice of equipment that is wider than your trailer is quit easy, but time consuming, for unloading, and loading. You have to have ramps even with the height of your trailer. Be able to have one wheel of the combine, on each side of the trailer. Jack up your combine so that the wheels are slightly off the ground. Remove the tires, and lower it down on top of blocks. Have your blocks half the heighth of the removed tire. Make sure that they are at lease 10" wide by 6' in length. Have a notch cut in it the width of your axcle about 2" or 3" deep. Have 6 pieces of 4"x 4" stackin two's one at each end, and one in the middle, to span across your trailer inbetween your blocks to keep them in placc. Then strap down your blocks. Chain down your combine, and your good to go. Before you leave to get your combine, you can call ahead to the permit office, and pay for your permit in each stste, and they will issue a permit, for a couple of days, and fax you a copy of your permit. You have to have a Credit card for that. I can't remember how much it costs for the permits. I quit driving transport trucks 8 years ago, and I used to have to get the odd permit, for the odd over demintion load, for a couple of States, that I had to go through.
Hope this helps you out. Gives you a couple suggestions.
Bruce.

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TimWafer

04-08-2008 17:35:27




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
I'd like to find something closer to central NY but so far haven’t. Still looking! I think you’ve all talked me out of going after this one. Not much of anyway to even load it on a trailer there apparently anyway. Towing it 300 miles on its own is out of the question as far as I’m concerned. I did tow a 12’ corn planter about 60 miles once with no problems. Even had to go a few miles through a city with it. Did it early in the morning before much of anyone was out and about though. 300 miles on something with questionable wheels and bearings is another story.

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the tractor vet

04-08-2008 17:15:51




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
Ya can tow in ohio up to 14 foot farm equipment BUT the min. you put it on a trailer anything over 8 foot 6 inches become a permit load and needs permit and once ya cross the magic number of 12 foot ya need escort This changes some from state to state. And they are getting tougher day by day. THEY NEED THE MONEY.



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Spook

04-08-2008 16:15:46




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
I towed a baler over 50 miles, took several hours, stayed on side roads, took my time, bothered nobody, nobody bothered me. I think the DOT guys are looking for commercial type rigs. I have trailered a bunch of things that overhung the sides, never got any permits for anything. I would try to make sure you are tied down very well, if the beasty slides off ya might warrant a ticket based on common sense. Most police guys I have met seem to be pretty regular guys.

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F-350

04-08-2008 15:31:50




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
Take the back roads and cross no scales.Let the load hang off the shoulder side and stay out of big towns.Its worked for me.



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fixerupper

04-08-2008 09:31:23




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
Phillip D.'s advice is right on! I've been involved with hauling combines all over the western states and Canada, and you never know what the DOT officer is going to come up with next. You might think you have all the bases covered, and then he or (shudder), she, might come out with the tape measure. I think the dollar bills start going around in their heads when they see oversized farm machinery. Jim

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Walt davies

04-08-2008 09:10:49




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
Be sure to tell them that its farm machinery because they have different rules and you may not need any permits but you may need a pilot car and lots of red flags and flashing lights. Be sure to check both states.

A good friend of mine who works fro a farm was hauling hay to the compactor for shipment over seas and was stopped at the scales. He was over weight. It seems they changed the rules this year but didn't tell anyone about it. The farm owner had to go get a permit before he move the load.
Since he was Mexican the cop kept asking him if he was a citizen he said yeas then he asked where he was born Victor said "why" he then said I born in Mexico. Victor has been here along time and is legal now. Also a very good American he follows all the rules doesn't live on wellfare and makes sure that his kids understand that they are Americans with Mexican roots but Americans. We are very good friends with his whole family and I personally think that they will make very Americans that will uphold all of our laws. Victor speaks very good English and make his kids learn both English and Spanish and any other language that they want to learn, one girl is now learning Japaneses. I wish all of the new arrivals would be more like Victor and his family. Things might be a little better for them. We need some to do the farm work and jobs that we don't have people to do. At 5.0 unemployment its even hard to find farm workers when you need them.
Sorry to be so long and political.
Walt

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rrlund

04-08-2008 09:00:19




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
Aren't there any of those old relics any closer to home than that?



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Billy NY

04-08-2008 08:51:18




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
I'm going to assume you would need to pull the correct permits for each state, see what it costs, it's been a long time, and many times within the local radius I can remember just hauling whatever it was without permits, for me that was roof trusses on a flatbed trailer, and later on excavation equipment. Things have changed significantly, best to see what is required and do what is necessary. I remember about 1990, having to pick up an 850 JD dozer, 40-50 miles west of here, straight blade at 12'-0" wide, I was headed back east and decided I-88 to the NYS thruway was better than the hairpin turns using state roads, plus the long hills down the mountain. I pulled up to the NYS Thruway toll booth and the attendant issued me a permit right there, I had no idea, boss tells you to go get the machine. It cost $20 from that exit to the Albany exit, things must likely have changed since, ought to be easier with internet.

In '02 I had a Caterpillar D7 with a 12'-0" blade shipped from Illinois, blade was angled, so it was probably 12" over each side, I was going to have it taken off, but the additional cost of shipping as is was not that much, not worth the time to take it off and break it down. The truck came through I-90 from OH, PA. The cost of the over width permit was not a big deal, possibly due to the dimensions being about 12" each side., never was sure, but was good news to hear at the time, saved a few bucks.

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phillip d

04-08-2008 08:11:49




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 Re: wide load? in reply to TimWafer, 04-08-2008 07:55:35  
It may be worth your while to get a quote to have someone else haul it for you and compare that to yor budget to haul it yourself and see what you will be paying yourself for the extra headache?



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