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Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem

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Allan In NE

04-03-2008 17:26:41




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My neighbor is running low on feed; gonna be at least a month until the pastures are ready and the guy just flat needs some hay.

I told him to hitch onto my sled (pictures), MAKE SURE THE TIRES ARE AIRED UP and take four stacks of my hay to help get him thru until grass time. No charge, just take it and keep your cows fed.

His place is 23 mies from mine and he has to travel right up the hi-way and cross that darned Pine Ridge.

Okay. He forgot to check the air in the tires and the bales are weighing 1300 lbs a pop.

How come it's always an inside tire that blows? How come the closest 14-ply tire is in Denver and won't be here until tomorrow? How come ya have to pull the pivot axle and the wheel bearings to access that silly tire anyway? Under that load of hay, no less? :>(

But, that isn't the problem.

Guy feels bad about all this and is trying to pay for that tire/tube.

It's probably gonna run a good 3 or 4 hundred, gonna take him at least a couple of hours to change it/repack the bearings and this flat tire just wasn't his fault.

Think I'd better get to town early in the morning and get it paid for before the frieght even comes in. He's being pretty darned bull-headed about this incident. :>(

Allan

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gab

04-04-2008 17:34:05




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
I'd like to have either one of ya for a neighbor but you guys might be about thirty years behind the times. Now it seems like everybody has adopted the ( screw em all but six and save them for pallbarers ) attitude.



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Mike (WA)

04-04-2008 08:20:24




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Had a great neighbor about 25 years ago, when I was still trying to farm. Older fella, retired, great mechanic. Always brought stuff back in better shape than he got it, never complained. Replaced the clutch in my Oliver 550 once. One time he was using my baler, and when I came by his place on my way home from work, it looked like a yard sale- baler parts everywhere! I drove in, and he came up with a big grin, and said "It ain't as bad as it looks! We've got it comin' our way now, we're puttin' it back together!" Seems that a couple teeth had broken out on the main gear- probably just metal fatigue, from hitting the same teeth on the plunger stroke for upteen years. He had an old crony who was a machinist and welder- they built it up with weld, ground it down, and did such a good job that about the only way to find it was the bluing of the hot metal. I had been doing hay for a couple guys in the neighborhood, so when I quit, I just let Charlie do it with my equipment. He'd bring me some money once in awhile, and would have been hurt if I didn't take it. I finally got even- when we moved away from the neighborhood, I took the baler and rake over and left them, and would never give him a price to buy them. I went to his funeral last week- died at 90. One of the best guys I ever knew.

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Nancy Howell

04-04-2008 06:30:03




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Like the pics, like the eqmt. How about splitting the cost? Maybe both would be happy or letting him help pull it off and put it back on?

My former brother-in-law borrowed one of our cars, brought it back empty then complained about the a/c and a few other things. It was my car he borrowed and it was "unavailable" next time he asked.

My jerk neighbor, back when we were still on speaking terms, borrowed our jig saw. Kept it forever. Finally, James called him and asked for it back. He was peaved to have to give it back and had the nerve to ask why we needed it back. He never got another tool from us. Plus, it was a mess when we got it back.

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cj3b_jeep

04-04-2008 04:55:56




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
I borrowed my buddy's log splitter a few years ago before I had one of my own. It had not been run in several years. I cleaned it up, tuned it up and put fresh gas in. It started first time and proceeded to disintegrate the pulley that drives the hydraulic pump...I found one at a local supply house at 4:55 on a friday when President Bush was in town for something and they had all of the roads blocked. I've never had so much time invested in such a small part! It's just the right thing to do to fix anything that breaks when borrowing equipment, but you did the right thing by him. At least he offered.

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lloyd in sc

04-03-2008 22:15:43




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Had a neighbor borrow troybuilt horse (tiller), when I asked how it worked his son said that it wouldn't start. I checked it out & no gas in tank. He said yea, we drained it back out, it was ours... Later he asked to borrow it when I got it started, just said no, it costs too much to repair.



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BIlly NY

04-03-2008 21:08:24




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
My father bought a few thousand as you call em idiot cubes ( your right about those after seeing how much faster the other way is ) and the farmer said to use one of the back up kicker type metal hay wagons, the one the farmer whacked into a tree and distorted the metal frame etc. back up back up for him.... ok well 200 bales hand packed, each load, for about 3000 worth.

Farmer and my father probably close in age, both would just hook onto it and drop the pin, no don't worry about the cotter key, just drop the pin, it's good. You know the type Tire pressure, bearing grease, these are non essential optional items to them. Comical ain't it ? I'm always the one checking those things and getting after people to do the same thing.

Yours truly ended up carting that wagon 15-20 miles each way, until his mow was empty, 2 lane state road, used to be rural, but a little busy at times now, guy in a convertible enjoyed some chaff one day.... testing the horn a little while passing.

Last load in, I heard a bearing, oh and the side door hinges were so rusted up, both pairs just about fell off after some recent use at the same time, hangin in the breeze, with all the flexing from the farmers tree incident, wow what a wreck. Now how would anyone consciously bring that back to where you got it like that.


Did that bearing, checked, re-packed the rest, got the stick welder up there, straightened some metal, made it strong again, was hotter than.... out, trying to use stick on thin metal for the first time, got the doors back on, made sure it went back right, his daughter worked for us, she brought it back on the way home. He's in the field with it, tie rod for the steering comes apart, he says someone sabotaged it. I dunno, things get weird when you borrow something, towing that wagon was an accident waiting to happen, never again, bought a truck for hauling or have it delivered.

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tiresntracks

04-03-2008 21:03:03




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Allan, your neighbor is just like mine. Sometimes they'll borrow my pickup and gooseneck or just my pickup to pull their gooseneck, and it always comes back with a full tank of fuel, even if its empty when they take it and even at today's fuel prices.



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gmd

04-03-2008 20:41:19




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
...Frankly just looking at that long flat stretch of land just makes me jealous...Not to mention that sweet looking 1066 or whatever they are! Too many hills around here.



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Dairy Farmer in WI

04-03-2008 19:34:54




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
that is a neat lookin' hauler...where didja pick that rig up at?
DF in WI



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Colorado Curt

04-03-2008 18:53:42




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Allan - I came up from Boulder to Bridgeport on Tuesday for the auction. If the timeing was any better I could of brought up that tire for you.



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Allan In NE

04-03-2008 19:00:00




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Colorado Curt, 04-03-2008 18:53:42  
WHERE IN THE H....E....double have you been?

Haven't seen much of ya fer 2 years now.

Darnit! Stay in touch! Which, reminds me, I've still got a tie strap that belongs to you.

Allan



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Colorado Curt

04-03-2008 22:05:03




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 19:00:00  
Lost my day job about a year ago. Did some custom hay work last summer for the horse ladies. I have been selling some tractor parts on the side and helping my son with his auto parts business. I haven't been posting around forum at all. Thought I might see you at Gary's auction. I hadn't been through Bridgeport since I dropped off that planter.



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coloken

04-03-2008 18:52:47




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
There is a hell of a lot of things in this world that are more important than the price of a tire or two. Its nice to know people that understand this.



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Peabo

04-03-2008 18:51:27




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Is this neighbor the eighty something year old guy?



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Mark - IN.

04-03-2008 18:33:44




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
You're right Allan, he didn't do anything to cause it to blow. He just happened to have it when it did. I'm the same as you on that...is mine, and would've happened to me. And I got a neighbor like that too. 2AM, 3AM, 4AM...he's there as well, if need be, and he's woken me up at those hours too. Works both ways. And tires aint cheap. Just repaced a couple of rears $2K. Out of town a couple weeks and when get back have to line up the tire guy to come down and load 'em up with beet juice. I don't know what that's gonna cost compared to filling them with the calcium chloride like was in the old ones, but... They say its as good.

Glad you're OK. There was some here starting rumors you fell into the well and stuff. Them guys.

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PatMz

04-03-2008 18:28:39




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
He musta been raised like me. When I borrow something I don't treat it like it's mine, I treat like it my Dad's!



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glennster

04-03-2008 18:15:51




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
i dunno allan, if i borrowed your trailer and you gave me a load of hay, and that happened to me, i'd be real upset if you wouldnt let me replace the tire at my expense. grand dad always taught us if you borrow something, return it in BETTER shape than you got it in.



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Mark - IN.

04-03-2008 19:38:32




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to glennster, 04-03-2008 18:15:51  
You know? You make a good arguement. This oughta be good to watch. A good and greatful neighbor arguing that he needs to do right by him, and Allan arguing back that it wasn't the neighbor's fault. Nothing like a couple of good guys arguing that they need to do what's right by themselves for the other. Those are the kinds of folks that will enjoy sharing steak dinners together for years to come.

You bring the popcorn and sodas, I'll bring the chairs and we'll sit back and watch "No, I'm the one who caused..." going back and forth. Grin.

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Steven f/AZ

04-03-2008 18:07:39




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Ever heard of Murphy's Law?

It is ALWAYS the inside tire that is flat, and no one carries that size in town.

I would think that flat bed gooseneck trailer of yours would work better for a 23 mile haul!



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135 Fan

04-03-2008 17:55:33




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 17:26:41  
Can you provide me with a list of equipment you have? I may need to borrow something and it would so nice if I didn't have to fix it if it broke or was partly my fault. LoL Maybe your neighbor and you could split the cost of the tire? He gives you $50 or whatever and puts it on and you just have to wait a little longer to fix your combine. At least your friend offered to pay. I had a guy years ago come out to ride one of our snowmobiles. He rolled it once and luckily nothing broke but then he asked, "If something breaks on the machine when I'm using it, I don't have to pay for it do I?" What an idiot. That guy was so cheap you wouldn't believe it. Dave

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Allan In NE

04-03-2008 18:05:17




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to 135 Fan, 04-03-2008 17:55:33  
I dunno.

We do things a little different out here, I guess.

This is the guy that I can call at 3am to come help me reverse a calf and he doesn't even blink. Just pulls on his boots, comes and helps.

If the tire hadn't of blew on him, it would probably have done it on me this summer in the hay fields.

Actually, I kinda feel sorry for the guy. He's got better things to be doing than pullin' an axle on my old junk sled sittin' broke down in the middle of the road.

Allan

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RusselAZ1

04-03-2008 18:10:14




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 18:05:17  
Hugs to the both of ya. I'd help if I was a closer. Just be sure adequate jacks and such are used. Awould hate to hear sad news.



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Allan In NE

04-03-2008 18:20:08




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to RusselAZ1, 04-03-2008 18:10:14  
Yeah,

He did it right. Had to walk a mile and a half, borrowed a pickup and a 40-ton hydraulic jack.

Darned sled looks kinda funny sittin' there proped up on one leg. :>)

Allan



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sbin

04-03-2008 20:17:45




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to Allan In NE, 04-03-2008 18:20:08  
Good neighbors and family, much more important than a tire.
Borrowed brother inlaws trailer to get a backhoe out of Michigan on a Sunday.Sure enough notice an inner tire with problems on a fuel stop.Started looking for an open shop along the way when the tire let loose and started to eat the one next to it throwing rubber.So worried about being stuck with BiL's trailer didn't notice the state trooper running lights behind me.He drove by blocked the road and started chewing on my butt good then told me to follow him.I was imagining impound and BiL having come for me and trailer/backhoe.Thankfully he took me to a tire shop right off the highway wished me well and left.Can honestly say I never ws so happy to buy two tires as I was that day.
Told BiL the story and he tried to pay for the tires saying he knew that one needed replaced but never got around to it.I wouldn't hear of it,

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steveormary

04-03-2008 20:57:39




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to sbin, 04-03-2008 20:17:45  
A fellow I know borrowed a post hole digger from his preacher. Broke a handle> couldnt find the right replacement handle so bought the preacher a new posthole digger and kept the old one> Preacher couldnt get over that for awhile>

Loaned a neighbor my 706 ger. and 4 bottom fast hitch semi mount plow. Told him it wasnt an Oliver,he could go in 4/L with the TA up.

Things are different out in the country yet.


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steveormary

04-03-2008 20:57:01




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 Re: Uff-Da! Now, This Is A Problem in reply to sbin, 04-03-2008 20:17:45  
A fellow I know borrowed a post hole digger from his preacher. Broke a handle> couldnt find the right replacement handle so bought the preacher a new posthole digger and kept the old one> Preacher couldnt get over that for awhile>

Loaned a neighbor my 706 ger. and 4 bottom fast hitch semi mount plow. Told him it wasnt an Oliver,he could go in 4/L with the TA up.

Things are different out in the country yet.


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