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Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove

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Bruce Hopf

03-16-2008 13:05:04




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I am looking for ideas, to burn used motor oil, when I am working in my shop, while Im burning wood. I was planning to use an old cream can, mounted above the woodstove, and running a line inbeween, the two. Drilling a small hole in the top of the stove, and having a real slow trickel of oil, on top of the wood fire. Any sugestions, on this issue? Thanks for your input. Bruce




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Mn Dave

03-17-2008 05:33:44




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
Been doing that for over 20 yrs. I have a large old wood burning furnace that came out of a house and removed the jacket. Then mounted a 3 gal. pail on the wall, but make sure it is a good distance from the furnace, like at least 5 feet or so, then I brazed a fitting to the bottom of the pail and ran some brake line to the top of the furnace with a valve below the pail to control the dripping..... probably something your insurance guy wouldn't approve of, but sure works great. I then have a squirrel cage fan from a modern furnace set up behind the wood burner to blow the heat around, plus have ceiling fans to bring the heat down to the floor.

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Big M

03-17-2008 05:01:37




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
I have been using used crankcase oil in my homemade wood burning stove for years. The stove is a 100 gallon fuel barrel (not a 55 gallon oil barrel, they are too thin) with a Stotz door kit. I welded a foot long thin wall exhaust pipe in the barrel at about 2 o'clock in the side and extend the pipe about 6 inches into the fire box and about 6 inches out. I have a 5 gallon can of oil sitting on a stand and a quarter inch pipe coming out of the bottom of the can with a gate valve on it. I run a small stream of oil with an air gap to the exhaust pipe and it runs into the fire and splatters onto the wood. Oil consumption is about 3 quarts an hour. I also run a small 110v squarrel cage fan at the front under the door to blow air into the fire box. Not enough vent air goes into the fire box to keep the fire going with natural draft. We can keep the 40x60 shop real confertable on a cold day but we do not leave this stove unattended. One does get a lot of black oily smoke so the 8 inche exhaust pipe is vertical through the roof. I can send you a digital picture of the unit if you would like to see it.

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Hal (WA)

03-16-2008 20:38:35




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
My grandfather had a shop in Eastern Montana where he worked on various pieces of machinery for his farm and for neighbors. At that time (in the 1920's and 1930's) about the only fuel they burned in that area was fairly crappy lignite coal that was mined locally. My grandfather had a fairly big coal stove that he kept going all winter.

His farming and working on others machinery generated quite a bit of waste oil, which my grandfather would carry up to the attic and put it in a couple of barrels. The barrels were plumbed to gravity feed a copper tube to the coal stove. Inside the stove, my grandfather had it plumbed so the oil would dribble down a piece of chain and burn over the burning coal. It got rid of the junk oil and really helped to heat the shop.

My cousins still own that farm and the stove is still there in Grandpa's shop. Various family members have used the shop all these years and the coal stove is used for heat if the shop is needed in winter. They haven't used the oil burning setup lately because they decided that it was too much work to carry the old oil up to the attic, and also because they don't generate that much junk oil any more.

There is a valve in the line to regulate the oil flow to the stove. I would imagine it was pretty important to turn off that valve when there was any chance that the stove might go out, but my cousins said they never remembered the oil system leaking all over.

It sure wouldn't be very hard to make such a setup, and it wouldn't cost much. On the other hand, it might very well not be legal if it makes any visible smoke, if you were in an area where that would matter. Good luck!

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Lee in Iowa

03-16-2008 19:42:47




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
Be careful gravity fed will run away oil gets hotter runs faster burns hotter etc. Better to use a small pump of some kind. One I saw used an automotive fuel pump like on the side of a chevy v8 with a small gear reduction electric motor to run it. Oil was pumped thru a nozzle- 1/2" pipe with end smashed flat in to a fire pot- torque converter from automatic trans. This was all inside a 30 gallon drum which was inside a 55 with a fan blowing between. Worked very well. Lee

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Pat-CT

03-16-2008 18:40:42




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
waste oil furnace? i personaly would make a pump like from one of those little aquariums and make it do it sprayed the oil when you fliped a switch but thats just me



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Bill in IL

03-16-2008 18:34:21




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
I mix my oil with sawdust and use it for fire starter. If you had a surplus you could stoke the stove with it every time you fill. Its not automatic like you are hoping for but it is effective for getting a fire started and cleanly burning the oil. I buy one of those bales of sawdust from TSC about once a year to make my mix.



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fixerupper

03-16-2008 17:00:34




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
If it's a small stove that you can run fairly hot it might work but it's really hard to regulate. I tried it in my big woodburner in a shop that's real easy to heat, and after the second chimney fire I quit using the oil. I couldn't run the wood burner hot enough to get the oil to burn clean so a whole lot of oily soot built up in there. The temperature of the oil has a lot to do with how fast it drips, so the hotter the shop-the faster she will drip. Regulating the flow is a constant chore that can't be ignored or you might have a melt down. It might be good to have a small orifice in the drip tube so it can never run faster than a slow drip. Jim

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junkmanduff

03-16-2008 16:58:46




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
A friend used a fifty gal barrel stove he made to heat his small engine repair shop. The barrel had a steel plate on the bottom that the oil dripped on from a copper pipe with shut off. He had a gravity feed fifty gal. barrel "OUTSIDE" and only used it when he was there. Worked great.



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HuskerMedic

03-16-2008 15:56:56




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
Neighborhood shop back home, used a large wood burner with fans to heat the shop. Used to (may still, haven't been in the place in a few years) keep five gallon buckets of whatever (used oil, hydraulic fluid, transmission fluid, etc.) around the stove. Whenever he would walk by it, he would dip a coffee can into the nearest bucket and toss the contents into the stove.

What's amazing is that he's only burnt the place down once (late 1980's) doing this. I was on the call; when we opened the door to go in and put out the fire the concrete floor was burning from all the accumulation.

Shop was rebuilt and he's still at it.

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Ch0ck430C

03-16-2008 16:04:22




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to HuskerMedic, 03-16-2008 15:56:56  
Yeah I agree that burning oil like that is unsafe. I used to do it but quit for safety reasons. Now I just use my used oil to kill the weeds in the fence row and preserve the decking on trailers and spend a little more time cutting wood instead.



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dlplost

03-16-2008 15:20:09




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
i use a gallon jug about 2' higher than the wood stove, drilled top of stove for brake line tube to fit, ran brake line thru a small valve. Get a good wood fire going and then adjust for a nice slow drip. works great, been doing it like that for 15 years, never had a problem.



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Bob

03-16-2008 13:15:36




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 Re: Any Ideas For Burning Used Motor Oil With Woodstove in reply to Bruce Hopf, 03-16-2008 13:05:04  
1.) BE CAREFUL! I just saw a buddy of mine who tried to burn his face off a couple of months ago when a used oil stove "went out" while hot, then the built-up oil vapor lit off in his face. NOT GOOD.

2.) It's REAL HARD to regulate that little trickle of oil if it's gravity-fed. ANY junk in it will stop off the flow of oil from time to time.

3.) If you really want to try this, check out the link below:

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