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Dave from MN

03-07-2008 05:14:57




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I am a crop ins greenhorn, totally. I know we need to hav it bought by the 15th of March. I am only putting in 40+/- aces. It all seems a bit confusing. I would be foolish NOT to take out insurance on my crops. My 1st year so I have no yeild history to go with. I am assuming its gonna be a drought year, an prices are good, right now. Crops are winter rye, corn and soybeans. Can some of you all share some advice for myself and the rest on here that really need an hoest education on it?

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super99

03-07-2008 16:53:00




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
I farm 65 acres of sandy hill ground. When it rains in the summer, I can raise 165+ bu corn and 35+ bu beans. I have bot revenue assurance since I bot the place in 2001. Premiums are a little high, but in 2003, turned off dry in late Aug and all Sept, corn made 101 and beans made 11 bu/acre. More than made up for the price of the premiuns, wouldn't farm without it. NOW, if you had some GOOD land, and a dry spell didn't affect it, that would be a different story all together. Talk to an agent you can trust, he should be able to guide you. This year I have 65% on corn and 75% on beans, Revenue Assurance. It will cover all the expenses. Chris

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John (C-IL)

03-07-2008 10:36:10




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
The other thing that I woould suggest is a revenue type product. That way if you have a lost it is tied to the value of the crop, not just the bushels. I agree that you need to buy insurance based on your cost to operate, anything above that you are trying to hit a home run on a crop failure and it will cost you in the long run.

I've included a link to the UofI Crop insurance tools.

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Wyokid

03-07-2008 10:21:48




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
What IaGary says. I insure dryland wheat in SE Wyoming, 75% multi-peril. Using the county average works for me since its actually a little higher than my historical average. Depending on the carrier they may or may not "ding" you for being new to the system. cover your input costs if you can and be happy with that.



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paul

03-07-2008 08:52:17




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
Be real careful. Those first few years you actually don't get any cverage, they take your money & use county averages & then apply a penatly discount to your coverage because you are new.

Hash this all out with your insurance agent & get it all in writing, what your actual coverage is.

Back in the day the 1st year the fella talked me into better coverage, spend more. Turned out we had a drown out year, my yields were 1/2 of n=ormal. When I showed up at his office, oh, he reached back, handed me a slip od pink paper, new insured only covered 70% first year, only 90% of what others could get, yadda yadda.

I went home & did the math, if my corn field was hammered down to zero yield, I would have recieved a tad under $15 an acre from them. Never was mentioned to me when he talked me into the 'better' coverage that would insure me to 80% of my normal - yea right.

What a flipping joke that was.

Programs have changed a lot since then so this has no relation to current insurance types. My point is, spend time on the new part of this, so you know what their coverage really is for a 1st timer.

--->Paul

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nj dirt farmer

03-07-2008 05:57:16




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
I am 20 years old and started farming on my own in Nj two years ago. When I got started I was farming 700 acres. When I went to get crop insurance. I didnt have any records of yeilds. So I had to go with the county average for the first four years. I usually insure corn and beans. Some years you will wonder why you spend the money. But on a drought year it will pay off for the years you didnt collect on it.

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IaGary

03-07-2008 05:54:09




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 Re: crop insurance in reply to Dave from MN, 03-07-2008 05:14:57  
I insure at a level to cover my costs.

I do not insure enough to make a profit. It cost to much. I have hardly ever collected so why pay a lot. I insure at the 65% level.

If you have no history, they use the county average to establish a yield. I think?

When you set down to talk to the agent, know what your expenses are going to be, so when he talks rates and levels of coverage you will know what you want to do.

Gary

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