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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 10:57:21

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Trying really, really hard to be open minded and objectionable here.

After freight, hoses and fittings the grand total comes to $1015 for that silly hitch.

Pretty much all CAT I except for the �combination� eyes in the swing arms. Reminds me of a hitch on a lawn mower or garden tractor. :>(

Has anyone actually lifted a bale of hay with a Saginaw hitch and not had it tear itself right off the tractor? Darned thing sure looks light to me.

Maybe I'm just cranky 'er something; just not impressed at this stage of the game.

Guess I'll throw some oil to it and see what happens. :>(

Allan

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mitch furness

03-05-2008 23:03:16

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Allan I would have thought your two rams will lift way more than your lower links will cope with. Mounting of lower links to tractor is going to be your weakest point. Just go steady thats all.

Mitch

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wolfman

03-05-2008 17:59:27

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Had one of those on a SMTAD. Would lift a bale; wasn't impressed with the drawbar.

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Spook

03-05-2008 17:43:57

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

I have the same hitch on my H. But I have never lifted any round bales. But It will lift the entire back end of the tractor off the ground. I am thinking that the shear strenght of a 5/8 hardened pin would be several thousands of pounds. If your putting that kind of stress on it, I would worry more about the clamp loads ( bolts?) or even the rear axle casting.

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Tradititonal Farmer

03-05-2008 15:22:29

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Its up to anything the M hydraulics will dish out.

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NBAllen

03-05-2008 15:12:45

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Got a deal for you Allan in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

I'm looking for a 3PH for my '49H - you strap that one on a pallet with my address, and I'll pay the shipping to SW Idaho!

j/k

Nathaniel

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RobMD

03-05-2008 14:55:50

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

That's why you buy a tractor with a three point on it. Simple. You could have had a 584 international for around 5000 (these things have MASSIVE 3 pts on them), and so far you've dumped a grand on a 3 point and another for a wide front.

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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 17:20:11

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to RobMD, 03-05-2008 14:55:50

Naw,

Never touch that front end for a grand. :>(

Allan

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Glenn F.

03-05-2008 15:12:14

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to RobMD, 03-05-2008 14:55:50

I'm sure Allan's aware of all the numbers/options. If he wanted a 584 he'd have one.

I can fully understand and appreciate his updating an M. A nice M with power steering, live hydraulics, wide front with oversize front tires, and a three point hitch is a pretty sweet unit.

In my situation, I have a late model DC CASE which I have way too much money into. I know I could have a tractor 25 years newer for what I have into the DC, but no 1980 tractor can take me back to my childhood like a DC CASE!

Glenn

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jerry marshall

03-06-2008 19:28:45

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dc case in reply to Glenn F., 03-05-2008 15:12:14

glenn i have dc case was thinking about rebuilding it what all have you done to it do you have power steering on it and did you redo the motor and keep it stock jerry

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something's wrong

03-05-2008 14:39:08

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Does Allan actually have non matching tires on that tractor? That 3 pt. will never work with those mis-matched tires. One will get traction and then the tractor will just go around in circles. LoL

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ncdiesel48

03-05-2008 13:56:23

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Allen, no worries we have one on an MD and couldn't be happier and by the way it will pick up those 1,500 lb bales but you may need to put some weight on the nose....

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TWheat

03-05-2008 12:20:28

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Allan, stil LMAO, "open minded and objectionable". Which is it?? (:
As always, I enjoy your perspective.

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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 12:12:45

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Hmmm,

Well, Paul Backus says his works just fine on his H. Maybe I'm just being paranoid?

Allan

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IHC Red

03-05-2008 20:14:43

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 12:12:45

Reminds me of my best friend's dad describing why his Super M was more special than other Super Ms...

"It's a big Super M !"

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Dairy Farmer in WI

03-05-2008 17:44:54

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 12:12:45

if you look close in front of the front colter, you can see the stand all the way down. there is no way an H without weights would holt that up if my plow like that makes my 4010 front end a little bouncy! looks neat though!
DF in WI

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gordy from Iowa

03-05-2008 15:45:15

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 12:12:45

Sure some nice lookin' spuds on the ground!!

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paul

03-05-2008 12:36:11

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 12:12:45

Now that's funny. Photoshop or just staged?

--->Paul

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1 Dollar

03-05-2008 15:38:09

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to paul, 03-05-2008 12:36:11

Probably just didn't put it in very far...

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RusselAZ

03-05-2008 11:43:04

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

I had a Speeco 3 pt on my H when I was in Ogallala Nebraska. I sold it to a guy who lived in Grants in 1980. It was a great unit but I didn't use it for farming. It would pick up a pallet...200 steel post OK but I also didn't trust the axle clamps all that much so I put a brace from the bottom cross up to the swinging drawbar point.

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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 12:04:45

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to RusselAZ, 03-05-2008 11:43:04

Yes Sir,

I can see right now that I'll have to drill some holes and add a second set of axle mounts to it.

The way it is, and I gotta be honest, I sure won't go grabbin' onto a 1500 lb bale.

But then, maybe they were never designed for that? Knew I was in trouble when I saw the CAT I center link. Oh, oh. :>(

Allan

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higgins

03-05-2008 11:33:56

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

The buyer puts the sag in Saginaw.
It sure is pretty though.

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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 12:06:00

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to higgins, 03-05-2008 11:33:56

Think I put the "snag" in the process. :>)

Allan

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Bill46

03-05-2008 11:26:29

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Yup. Sure have. See where the shiney plates are on the top of the arms? It looks like they put a little more metal in there to beef it up.
Bale fork worked fine, but dad's big mower/conditioner ripped it right off the tractor on a hard right turn. Glad he did it and not me.
Still have the thing laying on the trailer where I brought it down here...he welded it up, but I have not convinced myself to mount it yet.

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Mark - IN.

03-05-2008 15:26:41

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Bill46, 03-05-2008 11:26:29

Glad it broke off when your father was using it instead of you? Yep, I could see that would be far better than standing in front of an angry father saying, "It did Dad, I swear all I did was...". Yep, I could see where someone was watching down over you that time. Hahahaha.

Looks good Allan. Sounds like Russel has a good idea about bracing it though...an ounce of prevention. Sure got plenty of hydraulic, so something's gonna move. Its not like that front end won't support weights.

Mark

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GaryKee

03-05-2008 11:21:55

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Allan:

The sale bill for a consignment auction that I am planning to go to this Saturday lists a Farmall 3 pt. hitch. If you want to check into it, the web site for the auctioneer is www.menkehoyerauction.com.

If you are interested, e-mail me.

Auction is in New London, Ia. I live just down the road from IaGary.

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james22

03-05-2008 11:15:22

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

Never liked the "look" of those outside mounted stabilizers, but appearance otherwise looks pretty good. Neat compact package. However if it can't pick up the desired objects, the pretty face may no longer look so good.

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Allan In NE

03-05-2008 11:29:09

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to james22, 03-05-2008 11:15:22

There's plenty of muscle there; not worried about that part.

It's those tiny little 5/8" pins that concern me. There's no way it will ever stand up to my mower without bending itself into a pretzel. That sucker is heavy!

I dunno. Maybe the darned thing will work on the hay rake anyway.

Allan

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Old Iron

03-05-2008 11:13:14

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Re: Dunno 'Bout This in reply to Allan In NE, 03-05-2008 10:57:21

I've never had a problem picking up big round alfalfa bales with my Saginaw,... but I had to put some weights on the front of my SM to keep the wheels on the ground when picking up a bale.

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