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stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif?

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mel8030

02-23-2008 09:57:22




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They got gas out of a tractor, tools and good log chain the other night.Locks don't help much. How would a person set up a camera system to get them? I think i would need night vision. how about hidden cameras? Plant a GPS sender in a tool box?




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Balatonm

02-25-2008 11:19:58




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
I had a year old snowblower stolen wright off my front porch. My new one is chained to my porch with the bigest logchain and padlock I could find.
the thing that makes me mad is that the cops didn't even show up, just took the rteport over the phone, and that was it. I weven told them who we thaght did it. To me. the best way to stop a thief is a shotgun, they may get away, but they will be easy to track. LOL

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cj3b_jeep

02-25-2008 05:39:21




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
My buddy has a circled driveway near his house and some kids were racing in and out of it at 3 in the morning. He put a nail strip down for few nights. One night he heard the bang of 4 tires being blown. They never came back.



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cj3b_jeep

02-25-2008 05:32:52




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Place where we rabbit hunt has had lots of round bales stolen, so they put up cameras, then the cameras got stolen. Now they have cameras mounted into welded metal housings taking a photo of every car/truck that goes down the road that crosses the farm. Now the theives are bitching about have their photo taken.



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Larry59

02-24-2008 18:02:26




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 Try this ideal in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
You can take a good 12 volt battery. One loud 12 volt horn. One flasher and out of an old car door. You take the push botton for over head light out. Then some fire and an off and on switch.
Set your battery up somewhere inside. Run a ground wife from battery to horn. Next take hot wire from battery and run it to a hiden off and on switch you can turn off easy but not seen.
The the other side of wire and run it to Flasher and from flasher to the horn. Install that little push botton switch on door so when door is open. Contact for the live wire to flasher to horn is hot when you want it. The loud sounds of horn going off and on will run anyone off. Cheap and easy to make.
You can even do this on a car or truck with that switch in door jam. Just hide the off and on switch under hood area or some place you want. Even a key switch for like a boat or something will work great for off and on switch.
Learned this in car magizine years ago.

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oscar80

02-24-2008 09:09:10




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Here is a still from the camera I mentioned above. Its not has clear has it could be due to it being behind a window.

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Dave



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buickanddeere

02-24-2008 06:43:33




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Geese on thier own are not much help. While I was bleeding to death in the hospital last October. Some s.o.b. stole my Embden goose, gander and a white turkey hen. Don't know why they didn't steal more?
They must have been wearing thick gloves and heavy clothes to approach that gander.



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jose bagge

02-24-2008 05:10:53




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
peacocks make a good alternative to the geese- they will pretty much stay in the area you feed them, make a crazy sound when spooked, and are pretty dog-gone impressive when they get riled up.



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Bartt

02-24-2008 02:01:46




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Heard of a case up in Vermont of firewood being stolen. This guy drilled a few holes in end of a few blocks and fill them with black powder. Finished with plastic wood to hide hole. A short time later a house blew up down the street. Don"t know if it"s true but food for thought.



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fudpucker

02-23-2008 20:47:28




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
When I was a state trooper I was able to recover alot of property by looking in weekly trade type papers the kind you see in the rack when walking out of the minute mart. I recommend maintaining a picture and serial number of any property that has a number. Be sure to look around your property immediately after a theft. I got a call one time about the theft of about twenty thousand dollars worth of horse tack. I tried the finger print thing which hardly ever works, but police need to at least make an attempt. I began to just walk around the area of the barn while trying to figure out what to do next. I walked about 100 yards behinbd the barn to a creek bank and guess what I found laying in the dry creek. Every bit of the tack. I am sure that was an attmepted insurance job, but if thieves take too much they may leave it near to come back for it later. Just some thoughts. Sorry about your loss.
Fud.

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Goose

02-23-2008 20:40:14




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
You can't depend on police response out in the boondocks where I live.

Several years ago, my wife left for work before daylight on a rainy morning and took out three of the neighbor's black Angus cows that had gotten out. It took a Sheriff's Deputy over a half hour to get to the scene. Among other things, he had to jumper his patrol car to start it.



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flying belgian

02-23-2008 19:36:01




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Son-in-law is a Mn. state trooper. They lived with us for about 3 mo. while waiting to move in their house. Never had any problems with stuff missing when his cruiser was sitting in our yard.



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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 19:30:47




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Another thing I just thought of, is putting moth balls in a jerry can full of gas. A freind of mine is an old mechanic, and he says nothing cleans the guts out of an engine better than moth balls. Thought I would share this with you.



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davpal

02-23-2008 18:11:43




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
I have been considering a driveway alarm that could pick up an automobile driving in or somebody on foot. I have two driveways and I am in kind of a busy corner and I need to do something. I wake up sometimes a couple of times a night thinking I am hearing somebody outside or a vehicle driving in. Makes it hard to get a good nights sleep living around here sometimes.



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NcNE

02-24-2008 09:01:02




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to davpal, 02-23-2008 18:11:43  
Mel8030
When we first moved out in the country we had a problem with people pulling in at night. A few weeks later we put in one of those drive way alarms. It works great! Aside from working at nite, it lets you know when someone shows up before they"re knocking at your door. We have it set in front of our newspaper box so we know when the paper arrives in the morning as well.



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oscar80

02-23-2008 17:29:10




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Lets see my list of stuff gone this year:

Push Mower

Gas Can

Circular Saw

Drill

Might be more stuff but just haven't missed it yet. I installed one of these
Link

Dave

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VADAVE

02-23-2008 17:11:22




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Here"s my experience. Thiefs broke into my shop and looked around, I found it fixed the damage and locked it back up. The next week they broke in again and this time treated me like I was a supply house, took a all my metric tools, couple of jacks and a light plus cleaned out the refrig. Total about $500. Called the police they came, looked it over, wouldn"t take finger prints when I pointed them out, asked who did it and THAT"S ALL.
So a week ago I have to reposess a pickup cause a individual would or can"t pay. Today i find someone cut the wires on my eighteen wheeler. Who do I suspect? And do I expect the police to do anything?
So mel8030 ask yourself what"s the camera going to do or what are you going to do with the pictures? Will the police do anything? Last question "What will prevent the theft?" Then act accordingly.

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Too Far Gone

02-23-2008 17:10:57




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Check on all area flea markets and visit them.Crooks might be there with your stuff,any upcoming consignment auctions?Also check area pawn shops within 30-40 miles of your area in coming weeks.If ya want to dope up a can of gas for them.Get some of those real fine metal grindings from your bench grinder in a can of gas.SOMETHING THAT MIGHT CLOG FILTERS AND EAT FUEL PUMPS



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Too Far Gone

02-23-2008 17:01:20




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Check on all area flea markets and visit them.Crooks might be there with your stuff,any upcoming consignment auctions?Also check area pawn shops within 30-40 miles of your area in coming weeks.If ya want to dope up a can of gas for them.Get some of those real fine metal grindings from your bench grinder in a can of gas.SOMETHING THAT MIGHT CLOG FILTERS AND EAT FUEL PUMPS



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Lanse

02-23-2008 16:48:03




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
The things people do make me sick. If it aint yours dont mess with it. Simple as that. Good luck finding your stuff. As for tresspassers, nails in boards so im told. Its your property, and where you keep your nail riddled boards is your choice. If you happen to be stupid enough to leave some in the back 40 by accident.....you catch my drift ;-)



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hayray

02-23-2008 16:18:31




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
I just happened to be lucky enough to be looking out my kitchen window a couple of years ago in the middle of a winter night and saw a guy walking across my driveway carrying a gas can to my bulk tanks. He saw me as I was running out my door in my underwear and bare foot through the snow. I was able to chase him down after a brief foot race and after fireing a warning shot with the Ruger GP 100. I stuck a gun in his back and told him that I would kill him if he ever came back, figured the cops wouldn't help much. I also have my bulk tanks locked now anyways.

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Cal Innes

02-23-2008 15:48:51




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
As Warren has already suggested, geese will get the job done. I just got rid of a half dozen geese, Gray Chinese, and they were absolutely the best guards night or day, both geese and ganders.If anyone or anything came in the yard they sounded off...what a racket, but they had a very good disposition. I generally kept them in the pen but sometimes would give them the run of the yard. Only reason I never left them out was because when I did they would roost on the back porch and "grease" up the walk. As long as they could see what was going on they were sure to sound off....heck even I couldn't sneak in late night...rats! Cal

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RayP(MI)

02-23-2008 15:47:15




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Father-in-law had been noticing gasoline in his bulk tank going down far too quickly. Next time he had the tanks filled, he had the deliveryman swap the diesel and gasoline tanks. following morning there was a car stalled about a hundred yards down the road. Funny, it sure smelled of diesel. Sheriff refused to deal with it. But, I suppose Dad did get his revenge.



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buickanddeere

02-23-2008 15:39:21




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Wouldn't a 5 gallon can of gasoline with a couple lbs of sugar mixed in with it Work? Maybe a pint of antifreeze too?



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none needed

02-23-2008 16:25:39




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 gas surgar in reply to buickanddeere, 02-23-2008 15:39:21  
No it wont mith busters tried the sugar in gas tank & they put in lots of it sugar was just something someone tried up ya itll make car run rough maybe sometimes but surgar melts down & burns, the antifreeze would just act like water & maybe in the cold months freeze a line but not gonna do a good thing that we could hope for & kill the crooks engine all together



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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 19:22:05




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 Re: gas surgar in reply to none needed, 02-23-2008 16:25:39  
noneneeded
Im sorry to say this but I also saw that epesode of Myth Busters. My exwife had sombody dump sugar in the gastank. the fuel injection pump filter was almost completely pluged with sugar, that the car would hardly run. Also the fuel screen for the carburator was also partialy pluged. On mistake the Myth Busters did was left the gastank still on the floor. I had this same conversation with the insurance adjuster at the time, about 15 years ago, take a glass of water, dump a spoon of sugar into it. What happens to it? It floats to the bottom of the glass. Now take that same spoon, and stir it up. What happens? The sugar now is all over inside the glass of water. Now the sugar will get sucked up into the fuel lines, and the rest of the fuel system. After my conversation with the insurance adjuster, he autherized the garadge where the car was at the time to fix whar ever needed fixing. New gas tank, new lines, new filters, and the injection pump cleaned and repaired every thing that had to be. It didn't cost us a dime, not even the deductable. So I beg to differ with the myth busters. By the way, the sugar they took out of everything was real klumpy. sugar in gas doesn't melt down and burn. It turns inta an abbracive. If the care was older without fuel injection, that engine would have been toast. Do the water glass experiment and you will see.

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1936

02-23-2008 15:13:47




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
They left the tractor must have been pot heads. Must have had a long time to get gas out of tractor? The devil made me do it. The bear trap thing is not cool the trapper will end up in jail. Thief has got me to lock up my cars. Kid taking toll way money.



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sparepartsTN

02-23-2008 13:44:52




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
My parents had "white China geese" back in the "60s, they are very territorial and will attack any thing or person that enters their yard. When they attack, you and your close neighbors will know because of the noise and the intruder running for their lives. Just keep them in a fence in the day and let them out at night, only feed them inside the fence so you can capture them each morning if you want. Two or three of them can put a dog to shame.
Warren

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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 16:01:22




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to sparepartsTN, 02-23-2008 13:44:52  
spareparts TN.
How do these geese fair out in the winter. I'm in Ontario, Canada, and it gets pretty cold around here, How big of a building would have to have to keep them in. Would a 2ft x 4ft insulated dog house do for 3 or 4 geese. Thanks for your input.



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sparepartsTN

02-24-2008 12:09:41




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Bruce Hopf, 02-23-2008 16:01:22  
I was a kid back then in NH where it does get down to a respectable cold, the weatherman predicted snow fluries one day, we had 14" of new snow when the "fluries" ended. My parents also had maybe 20 chickens, some ducks, the geese and other farm animals. If I remember correctly the hen house was maybe 12x12 with internal divides for the three types of occupants and a fence around it. The geese were allowed out of the fence in warmer weather. I believe that once in a while a duck or goose or chicken would be put in the cellar to heal a frozen foot. But I was a kid then and not that interested in them.
Warren

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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 13:38:15




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
mel8030
Sad to here about your misfortune. Too bad a person coulden't put a set of old diamand harrows up side down in the driveway, cause 4 flat tires in a hurry, or a good old reliable bear trap outside the shop door, that would hold them there until the law showed up, but I don't imagen the law inforcment would approve.



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Billy NY

02-23-2008 13:07:47




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
2nd that, goes without saying marking and logging serial numbers, tracking devices, permanently marking and tagging things, this technology today gets so far ahead you it's overwhelming what is out there now, and it can obviously be put to good use. Most of these clowns, not all but most are not too bright anyway, hopefully you will outsmart them quickly.



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Gerald J.

02-23-2008 13:00:22




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Your sheriff can issue an ID number that can be traced from anywhere in the US. Mark that on stuff with number stamps or a vibrating engraver. You can often borrow the vibrating engraver from the sheriff. Then go to FB and buy a sign that proclaims stuff is marked with an ID number. Add the motion lights too. Mark stuff twice, once easily found once hidden and keep a log book of where each is marked.

Without marks like these you won't get small stuff back, but serial numbered stuff may be recovered, but it has the obvious sheriff's number it will be noticed as contraband sooner.

Gerald J.

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dave2

02-23-2008 12:53:48




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
440 volts..... ..... ..... ..... .....

We microchipped our animals and I started brainstorming. Saddles, a couple of bridals and all of my fence chargers have chips hidden in them. Have been real lucky though. Only an air compressor stolen in 10 years. If someone is stealing your stuff, taking a picture will only give you a picture of someone that is broke anyway. Put him in jail and give him 3 hots and a cot that you pay for (you lost twice). I'd go a route that hurts them physically or in the slim wallet. Boobytrap is the ticket.

Dave

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Janicholson

02-23-2008 12:40:08




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Use a motion detector to trigger a recording of you speaking to somebody about being nervous like it was in Iraq, and hoping they don't mis.
A light comming on after a few seconds delay is also good "medicine" JimN



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Janicholson

02-23-2008 12:40:02




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Use a motion detector to trigger a recording of you speaking to somebody about being nervous like it was in Iraq, and hoping they don't mis.
A light comming on after a few seconds delay is also good "medicine" JimN



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pdz180

02-23-2008 11:18:34




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Security lights with motion sensors, Game tracker makes a good digital camera with a sensor, the sheriffs department should be able to provide extra patrols, turn on different lights or leave a radio on in the garage or barn area, and best of all, a good dog. I have had good luck with Rottweilers. You may just give you local sheriffs department a call and ask to speak with the community service officer, he will be able to give you more good ideas for you area.

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JD9295

02-23-2008 11:18:34




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
well if they are stealing gas, find someone that pumps oil wells, ask them for a gallon of (tretolite) tre-to-lite, long E.
They will know what you want, put it in a gas gan and fill the can, ""accidently"" leave it out where it can be seen easy, youll know who it is the next morning because their vehicle will be sitting on the side of the road with the engine locked up.
It works, trust me :)

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W.R.W.

02-24-2008 01:17:11




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to JD9295, 02-23-2008 11:18:34  
If it's unavailable,just use a simple home remedy instead---sugar. I heared it works well.



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Joe in MN.

02-23-2008 14:09:16




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to JD9295, 02-23-2008 11:18:34  
JD --- I never heard of Tretolite --- what they use that for and where can I buy it where there's no oil wells in my neck of the woods ??? also How much do I put in the gas per gallon ???



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JD9295

02-23-2008 14:18:47




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Joe in MN., 02-23-2008 14:09:16  
not sure where you would get it if theres no pumpers around. here we have wells everywhere and the pumpers always have some with them.

tretolite is a demulsifier, they use it to help with the separation on the wells.
LOL and it sure separates the engine in those thiefs getaway cars to



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JD9295

02-23-2008 14:20:01




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to JD9295, 02-23-2008 14:18:47  

try this link, it kinda tells what it is



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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 13:44:01




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to JD9295, 02-23-2008 11:18:34  
JD9295
I wouldn't want to be the crook that tries to rob you. With my luck, I'd have a long walk to where ever i was going after, plus a big repair bill for an engine over haul, on top of the jail time.



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JD9295

02-23-2008 14:25:24




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Bruce Hopf, 02-23-2008 13:44:01  
We were having alot of thefts around the different farms when I was younger 25-30 years ago. Grandpa always wanted 5 gallon cans of gas and diesel, thought there was less waste that way.
His brother was a pumper and they started doctoring a few cans and marking them and showing us all where they were. Well one morning they were gone, then we went for a drive down the county road and there was the car, grandpa called the sheriff and tracked down the owner, he swore he didnt steal any gas but you could sure smell the tretolite. That was all the judge needed to hear from the sheriff to, that ole boy may not have stole all the gas that had been taken, but he got to pay for all that grandpa knew about.
Guess word got out to, never had anymore stolen that we knew about.
Sad thing was, if the ole boy had been down on his luck and asked, grandpa would have given him gas.

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Billy NY

02-23-2008 10:25:22




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
You're in the right direction. One of the things I hate the most is a thief. Somehow you need to ID them, get a good description at least or some identifying information, but don't put yourself in any danger. I would be all for baiting them without it being entrapment, while using surveillance etc. You need to make sure you have the element of surprise with the surveillance and any measures you take. Might want to check in with local law enforcement if you can trust them, never know who is involved sometimes in rural areas could jeopardize your advantage by telling the wrong people. Be creative, do some research on the web, know the applicable laws and don't cross the line if at all possible, don't want the tables turned, just getting some clear shots of the perpetrator, and any vehicles used is a good start. Sounds petty now, but in todays world, these people can be real dangerous, we just had a guy caught robbing several business's 2 miles away, one was a friends, this thief must have done like 2 dozen jobs, but someone got a good description of him and thanks to the people who wear a state police uniform, one actually lives in the neighborhood, the suspect was spotted and apprehended, has a long record too. Never used to have this problem, it's spreading towards us from the nearby city.

If you have the time and can set up camp, sit there hidden long enough, odds are you will see them, might be awhile might not, I've done it patrolling the land with tresspassers, there is nothing like the element of surprise that is for sure, I've sprung out of the brush in full camo many times after waiting them out, last year I intercepted over 15-16 of them, without incident, also armed without their knowledge just in case, people know there is a presence here now, it's always some new idiot testing the waters. Portraying ones self as a bit crazy sometimes intimidates these jerks, so does having the state police number ready to dial in your hand, never had to do this years back either, they had barracks right next door! They got hit by vandalism once, right before an inspection, jerks took paint out of our tool shed and marked up the cars, thankfully I was too young to be considered, was right after the cars went to the dark blue colors, from the old black and white dodge polaras they had in those days.

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Bret4207

02-23-2008 15:48:27




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Billy NY, 02-23-2008 10:25:22  
Billy- Don't you mean the "Tiajuana Taxis"? Yellow with blue hoods and doors. The dark blue came in about 1988. My first Troop car was a "Taxi".



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Billy NY

02-23-2008 17:43:08




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Bret4207, 02-23-2008 15:48:27  
Ya know, you're right, there are photos on the NYS troopers website, link attached below, and now that I think of it, I always forget that the ones between '74 and late 80's were that yellow and blue, because they have been some shade of blue for a long time, that yellow fades in my memory of them for some reason. I remember storage lots of those new cars by the thruway main offices at exit 23, waiting for distribution, could not miss seeing those at all. The year they went to the new colors, they were still using chrysler or dodge cars, same model as in the blues brothers movie, I'm not up on the old dodge models, but I do remember when they made the change, must have been the same color scheme as the 1983 model, those colors were used over 10 years at least. I can also remember those guys scrambling to get that spray paint off those cars, they were inside the building when they sprayed them if I remember correctly, some brazen idiots, plus they were in our old milk house/tool shed. One thing is for sure, had they been caught in those days, they might have fallen down a few times before being arraigned, to say the least, another thing that has probably changed drastically since then.

Living next to the barracks, I remember the black and white cars quite well, exactly like the 1973 model pictured on the NYS trooper website, with the horn shaped tail lights and one rotating light on top. I remember one particular trooper that would turn the light on if we made a funny face from the barn behind the barracks when he was going out on the 3pm shift, we used to climb up on the first level of beams on that huge barn, and hang out the door, he was humoring us, but everytime we did it we thought we were in big trouble. I think we have some old photos where you can see in the background, the black and white patrol cars in front of the barracks from inside of our old house through the window where the photo was taken.

This was the Troop G Brunswick Barracks, it was new when we moved here. The guys assigned here then were good neighbors and great friends, many just out of the service like my father. I remember Maureen Tuffey being assigned here in the mid 70's, photo of her on the NYSP site too, had to make sure I remembered correctly, sh has not changed much since, she was part of the first class of female troopers, and she was the first one I ever saw in NYS trooper uniform, which was really odd then, also a very nice person as I remember her keeping a watchful eye out on our place when it was vacant, used to be very busy at one time, later on if I was working down there when it was quiet for awhile she or someone would always come out and check, I'd tell her who I was etc., I highly appreciated that, they did not have to do that by any means. Lot of good history and memories from those days when we were neighbors, they moved to a new barracks down the road a bit a few years back, lot of young guys training in this area now.

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RayP(MI)

02-23-2008 10:19:10




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Donno, but when you find out who did it, ask them if they swiped the battery outa my tractor right in my yard, under a security light, practically under my bedroom window! After that, I left tractor, sans battery under a motion detector light, with siren attached - never came back. Cat triggered it several times though. If'n I had a camera, I'd had lots of pictures of cat.



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02-23-2008 10:09:41




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Simple game cam that you buy at wal mart will do the job just fine. They have some for around $150 that take a picture when movement is seen by them and they have a special flash so as not to be seen which is a plus. With a picture in hand you can then take the picture to the cops and maybe put the person behind bars

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02-23-2008 10:08:36




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Lighted area is a good deterant. Request frequent police patrols through the area.



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Walt Davies

02-23-2008 10:08:33




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  
Get a bunch of Guinea Hens those spotted monsters they will make so much noise they wake the dead and as you know thieves won't stay long after they the house is awake.
Walt



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Howard H.

02-23-2008 10:04:02




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to mel8030, 02-23-2008 09:57:22  

We've bought several camera security systems for the university from www.supercircuits.com.

There are ton of different approaches. Depending on if you want to record multiple cameras over days at a time, or just want an internet-enabled camera that you can browse to every now and then...

Howard



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Bruce Hopf

02-23-2008 13:48:38




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Howard H., 02-23-2008 10:04:02  
Howard
Thanks for the tip on the web sight. I emailed them to see if they had local dealer in Ontario, Canada, If not if they wanted one?



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Bob85355

02-23-2008 14:55:41




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 Re: stole gas, log chain, tools-- best way to stop a theif? in reply to Bruce Hopf, 02-23-2008 13:48:38  
A bunch of good tips already. I had about 20 years experience in the security field before retiring about 8 years ago. There are two aspects to the problem of theft. First is prevention and second is apprehension.

To prevent a theft and absent lethal force which will usually get you into more trouble, you need something to slow down the theft until something else happens. Think of it this way. You"ve got a silent alarm system on your house and someone tries to break in. If the house is pretty secure it may take a few minutes to get in. By that time the police or your security company may be on the scene and the burglary is stopped. A recurring argument here is that the cops can"t or won"t get there quick enough. That"s true in many situations so then you either have to make the thief"s object harder to access or go to an alternate responder. That responder may be you, police, security or even a junk yard dog. There is no wall or lock or other antitheft device that cannot be overcome given the time and tools to do it with. So a person needs to figure out what they"re trying to protect and what alarm or notification system needs to be put in place to stop the theft. Read on one of these forums where a fellow installed a line from a motion detector light to his house to ring a bell whenever something activated the sensor. It doesn"t have to be complicated. That same line could release a solenoid latch and the junk yard dogs kennel.

To catch a thief is another issue. The doctoring of fuel sounds like a good idea as are the cameras.

Good luck to you on solving the problem.

Bob
Central Arizona

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