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Ford transmissiom issue?!

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firsttimefarmaller

02-21-2008 13:05:18




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First off I know this isn't tractor related but I want to here everyones thoughts. My mom drives a 2006 Ford Freestar with 50,200 miles. She was hearing a noise from the transmission, so she took it to the dealer. Come to find out she needs a whole new transmission! So I come home and get on good ol' google to see if this is a common problem, and it seems like everybody and their brother who has an '04 or newer freestar is having the same problem. My family has been a Blue-Oval family for years but I dont get how you could build that crappy of a transmission. I mean she drives a freakin' mini-van, its not like she haulin' big loads everyday. So anyway for $2400 she can get a rebuilt tranny with a 3yr/75,000 warranty. Seems like a big problem to me. Lets hear your thought

Tom

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Brokenwrench

02-21-2008 16:02:34




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 Re: Ford transmissiom issue?! in reply to firsttimefarmaller, 02-21-2008 13:05:18  
I would be a little sceptical of a "noise" coming from the trans warranting a reman. If it`s out of warranty, I`d pick it up and take it to another shop to get a second opinion of what the noise actually is. The biggest thing I`m seeing on the freestars is stripped pump shaft splines in the torque converter. Your driving along and all of a sudden--nothing. Normally that doesn`t justify rebuilding the trans. I`d want a good explanation of what they think the noise is before I`d let em tear into it...

Truthfully, I could go on and on about every make and models transmission problems, they all have em. All in all the 4F50N trans is pretty darned good. I know I`m saying that to someone who`s having trouble with one, but don`t pull the trigger on that one just yet. Dealerships and unfortunately some independent shops like to paint the picture worse than it really is.

A little more info on what the noise is she`s hearing and when she`s hearing it, and I may be able to give you a little insight. Good luck.

BTW there are no E clips in that trans. The older versions had E clips on the band apply pistons. If you lost one on the low band you had no 1st or 2nd, on the OD band you lost OD. Both were easily accessible by removing their respective servo covers. BW

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Roy Suomi

02-21-2008 15:33:10




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 Re: Ford transmissiom issue?! in reply to firsttimefarmaller, 02-21-2008 13:05:18  
Ya know.....It's not just the Fords that are going to crap...I had Fords years ago , had problems..Switched to Chevy's..The '79 and '87 were great..Got a brain fart and got a '97 Dodge Ram....Sheeesh what an experience...Went back to Chevy in '05 , had OK results till it got out of warranty..Now things that you wouldn't ever expect to break are breaking...It appears like they're making them cheap enough to just get by with.. and nothing more...Next one will probably be a Toyota , I'm afraid...Wifes Avalon has been super, with very few problems.. My '79 Blazer never went back for warranty.. The '87 Silverado went back twice..The Ram went back 15 or 16 times[ twice on a hook ]..And the '05 Silverado about 5 times for actual, no BS problems..Maybe it's time to finish the '49 Power Wagon in my barn and drive it....

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Lumpy

02-21-2008 13:27:46




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 Re: Ford transmissiom issue?! in reply to firsttimefarmaller, 02-21-2008 13:05:18  
Had the same problem with my '99 windstar. In 2004 it had 66,000 miles on it and pucked the tranny. Parts and labor was $3300.00. 1 month later it blew one of the ends out of the steering rack..$550.00 for that one. Wife got pissed and wanted to trade it. They gave us $6250.00 for it even with all that documented work done to it. Traded for a Buick SUV. Found out 3 months after the trade that Ford issued a service bulletin on the windstar trans '99 on up. There was a small "e" clip that was breaking inside the trans letting the fluid pressure drope on certain clutch packs, thus burning them out. That "e" clip at a hardware store costs about .45 cents and can be replaced just by pulling the trans pan, removing the filter and a couple of bolts. I drove Fords up to that point and have never looked at another one.

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