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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 13:40:46

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Too Darned cold to work outside today (10�), so I hauled the wretched beast in here to the hills where I have some heat.

Got more trailer time than seat time on this ol mama. :>(

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BobinKY

02-11-2008 19:25:34

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Dang Allen, you sure can stir it up. I always come lookin fer yer posts when I have been gone fer a while cause I know you are stirrin somethin up. Keep up the good work and keep the pictures comin. They are the highlight of my reading!

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Jlmtractor

02-10-2008 07:00:32

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

it doesnt matter how you load a gooseneck because the way the load is distributed on a the truck but with a tongue trailer you need to load the equipment over the axles to distribute the wieght equally over the truck and trailer

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Jim Johnson

02-10-2008 06:16:56

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Allan you're getting them all riled up again, and you didn't even say anything about a JOHN DEERE, but that comment about us tractor pullers was really mean. HA! HA! HA!

Go get em'. Have some fun.

By the way I think your cold weather came down here this morning.

Jim

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mitch furness

02-09-2008 22:35:54

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Allan do you have any theories on where the tractors rear axle should go in relation to the trailers axles??

Looks like it is sitting forward of trailer axles.

Mitch

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Texasmark

02-10-2008 06:24:40

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to mitch furness, 02-09-2008 22:35:54

On bumper pull trailers you absolutely must load the trailer tongue heavy like 10% of the total load. Don't know about goosenecks.

If you don't you will probably wind up in an accident and could take adjacent vehicles with you. Was following a friend one day, accidentally as we were coming home from work. He was coming down a hill of about 25 degrees, on an interstate highway, and at the bottom was a bridge. Obviously the bridge was level. He had several concrete culverts of about 2 ft in diameter by 4 ft long, loaded on a 16' bumper pull,tandem, trailer (like most folks buy)and I could see that he was loaded tail heavy. I had just come upon him and was too far back to warn him.

The instant the tandem hit the bridge the trailer started jacknifing side to side to the point where the trailer bashed in both sides of his truck and easily crossed over the hammer lane....thank goodness no cars were there. You just can't believe how fast a trailer can do that unless you see it with your own eyes.

When loading tractors, I drive the tractor on the trailer (tandem) and watch the arse end of the truck. When I see 2-3 inches of settling I stop. Pay little attention to just where it is in relation to the trailer axles.

If loading a light tractor, I just drive it all the way forward. Tongue weight is 500# max on my hitches.

On bumper pulls, what really works great is the tension system that you use on camper trailers. I use it all the time for my flatbed tandem and it really takes the yee-yaw (oscillating up and down at the hitch) out of the combination. Additionally, it relieves some of the tongue load.

My 2c

Mark

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Alex.C

02-09-2008 19:09:43

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Allen, some of these guys wouldn't survive down here fist the crazy temps then how we do things. I've loaded my MM BF on to our trailer and took a 30 tip with only a chain on the front axle and a 2x6 on the back to keep it form rolling off. Thats how we roll down here.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 19:17:56

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Alex.C, 02-09-2008 19:09:43

Oh,

Ya can't fault folks for gettin all worked up about things they feel strongly on.

We all work in our own "safety net" and we just have different boundaries is all.

I absolutely HATE haulin' tractors. Just doesn't seem natural to me. Same way with the tractor pullin'. Just doesn't seem right.

But hey! That's just me. :>)

Allan

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John S-B

02-09-2008 18:43:34

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Heat!?! What are you?? A Sissy? I figured you guys up in there in the frozen tundra would be workin' on yer tans at 10 degrees.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 18:57:33

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John S-B, 02-09-2008 18:43:34

Heck no,

I'm a sissy!

The cold is fer those tough guys up there in North Dakota. Seen 'em run around in T-shirts at -20�.

Allan

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MF#1

02-09-2008 18:27:52

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Man, that"s a BIG finger in the bottom pic. Don"t see a big prob, bet he didn"t meet one car out there;-)

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Keith-OR

02-09-2008 17:35:24

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ROTFLMAO!!! in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Allan, just gotta love it!!!!

I almost fell out of my chair on this one....Ya sure gotta rise out of a few....LMAO

Keith & Shawn(Special Olympic Champion)

Hey Sloroll, couple of those chulks from in side hanger wulda worked better...lmao

Still chuckling over this one....K & S

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John M

02-09-2008 16:24:04

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

I have lost any respect that I may have had for you. Just plain out STUPID!

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Al -VA

02-09-2008 18:57:56

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John M, 02-09-2008 16:24:04

It is not moving and is on the side of the road. I have loaded this way. give me a break.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 16:34:08

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John M, 02-09-2008 16:24:04

Thank you.

Took better than an hour, but I knew it would happen before the night was out.

Was really hoping for the "ignorant" line tho. :>(

Allan

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just a case of

02-09-2008 16:28:53

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John M, 02-09-2008 16:24:04

Allen and his inflated ego at work.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 16:39:59

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to just a case of, 02-09-2008 16:28:53

Gee Whiz!

You guys get downright nasty! Can't a feller have a little fun around here? :>(

Allan

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John M

02-09-2008 17:43:48

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 16:39:59

The safety and life of my children, or anyone elses children are no laughing matter! This is not something you should joke about.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 18:36:52

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John M, 02-09-2008 17:43:48

Hi Ya John,

"Safety" was never, ever the point/joke/issue.

Every other tractor forum on the 'Net has been talking for over the past year about the absolute, downright rudeness of people on this site. Folks leaving in droves because of this or that.

A huge discussion ensured this morning as a matter of fact. Heck, I've never noticed it much; I really like this place.

I always attributed the "pointedness" to the younger side being naturally a bit "in your face" or maybe it's 'cause I'm downright "blunt" at times too.

Anyhoo, when this thread took a bit of a foothold, this was on my mind and I was just wondering to myself how long it would take someone to "jab" me like they usually do.

So, I sends an email to my Pard over in Iowa and told him to watch, �Lets see how long this takes.�

Wasn't trying to raise a Rowe. Long winter and I'm trying to get thru it just like everybody else. No harm done, I hope.

PS. Fess up. You didn�t really think I would haul that silly ol' tractor without being tied down, did ya? :>)

Allan

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hillbillyOH

02-10-2008 05:27:27

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 18:36:52

Considering you stated that it was hauled without chains, why wouldn't we think it was hauled without chains?

What was your point if not to get people riled up?

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Allan In NE

02-10-2008 08:18:06

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to hillbillyOH, 02-10-2008 05:27:27

You show me where I said it was hauled without chains.

I IS a 15 mile drive, I DID lock the brakes and I DID put it in gear.

You are reading/seeing what you want to see not what is actually there.

Allan

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you mean other than

02-10-2008 06:24:05

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to hillbillyOH, 02-10-2008 05:27:27

allen's a a$$hole

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Shaky-2

02-10-2008 09:32:58

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to you mean other than, 02-10-2008 06:24:05

and he likes to make fools out of people, makes him look smarter.

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Keith-OR

02-10-2008 11:03:15

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Shaky-2, 02-10-2008 09:32:58

Allan was not trying to make fools out of anyone,,,Seems to me they did it to themselves. 1.. Jumping to conclusions, reading things into a post that was not there. Only a fool can make a fool of themselves.

Keith

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John M

02-10-2008 16:20:16

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Keith-OR, 02-10-2008 11:03:15

Lets see, a picture of a tractor with no binders, a phrase to the effect of setting the brakes and putting it in gear, not a mention of binders, Slorolls words of a block of wood, should I go on..... . My point is he should have spoken up before this got out of hand. Do I think hes dumb enough to accually do that, no BUT he never said he did bind it down until I said something, so in my opinion, and reading facts as they were typed, did he bind it down? I got ticked about it because I watched a man die after a tractor rolled off the back of a trailer going down the road, have you? Its not a pretty site, and I can go into details if you wish, but I dont think you do. My kids lives, and the lives of anybody else, are no joke of any kind when it comes to the negligance or stupidy of someone too dumb to bind down even the smallest of loads.Make a fool out of me if you wish, I really dont care, but when it comes to putting someone elses life at risk, Ill be the biggest fool in the world if it saves a life!

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Keith-OR

02-10-2008 19:15:23

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to John M, 02-10-2008 16:20:16

Yepper, I seen 2 of my boys, both 22yrs old with part of thier face blown away by "stupid fools" with a gun !!!! Ya don't want me to go into details!!!! Ya Opened up an old wound!!

Problem is people make too many asumptions.. gets them into trouble...Just as you have done, assuming I would not know what is like to see some get killed...

Just try going to the morg..and identifying your own son!!!

God Bless
Keith & Shawn(Special Olympic Champion)

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John M

02-11-2008 02:39:00

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Keith-OR, 02-10-2008 19:15:23

Im sorry Keith, I didnt mean to upset you. I know what its like as I lost my first wife and 3 month old son to a drunk driver, so yes, I have done the same. I guess we all really do have something in common. I got to keep my faith and know God had his reasons, and as I see my wife sitting o nthe couch watching the morning news, and know my 2 precious sons are sleeping, I know why.

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Iowa_tire_guy

02-09-2008 16:11:42

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to MR. WELDOR, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Sloroll said: (quoted from post at 15:09:37 02/09/08) I do the same if it is just to town and back. SOme times I chuck a split piece of fire wood in front and back of the tires just for good measure.

That's what I like. Safety first. You do nail the fire wood down don't you?

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NEbluejeans

02-09-2008 15:17:04

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Talking about not tying down and hauling on the highway, those pictures are probably evidence the police took as it is sitting along the road.
No allan in sight. Hes probably in the squad car pleading "Pretty please, pretty please I just wouldnt listen.

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Vern-MI

02-09-2008 14:49:47

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Nice seat but I think if I sat on it I would collapse the entire spring. Those front tires look like they are ready to work. Can see why you got that dusty gold color on yer truck.

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ArleninOr

02-09-2008 14:48:47

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Look close guys cause you have to remember that Allan probably had some velcro left after changing that front end

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andrew youngman

02-09-2008 14:00:38

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Wow that is a nice M. I was wondering the same thing though - where are your chains/binders or at least ratchet straps

We are looking into a F-350 to pull with. Is that a F-350 or a f-250. The truck seems to hold the gooseneck ok.

Wondering I guess if your trailer setup is all you would want it to be.?

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Dave H (MI)

02-09-2008 14:52:35

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to andrew youngman, 02-09-2008 14:00:38

That's nuttin, you should see his bottle jack/pallet combination for removing front ends.
Evil Knievel got nothin on him. Next picture probably show the jacked up tractor ON the trailer! Really though, I think we are talkin old pics. That front end was sold off that M last month, I do believe, and she sports a narrow front now. Don't give him too much grief. He sulks and the board just ain't the same without him.

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Superman

02-09-2008 15:50:28

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Dave H (MI), 02-09-2008 14:52:35

Kid if you want but if you are doing a brake job on a car or pickup drive the thing up on the trailer to do the work it sure beatsthehell out of crawling around on the ground

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 15:27:22

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Dave H (MI), 02-09-2008 14:52:35

LOL!!! Aw, you guys crack me up!

Yep, gonna turn this one into a puller fer sure. :>)

Allan

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Oldcraneguy

02-10-2008 06:22:21

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 15:27:22

Come on now Allen, ya need to quit messin with these guys! Its way too easy to get em goin, just aint no sport to it....
P.S. I got a nice Nitrous kit that'll fit right on yer new puller!

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Heyseed

02-09-2008 13:52:03

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:40:46

Hey Allen, It looks good on that trailer, maybe it is just a show queen. If you get tired of dragging it around I will do the right thing and come get it out of your sight. :-) Are you just loading? don"t see anything holding er down.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 13:56:52

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Heyseed, 02-09-2008 13:52:03

It's only 15 or so miles in here. Just locked the brakes and stuck 'er in gear.

Didn't seem to bounce around too darned bad. :>)

Allan

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JD9295

02-09-2008 14:12:56

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:56:52

if you try that here in illinois and the boys in the pretty white cars with the skid mark down the doors see ya it gets real sad, REAL sad.
They got me doing a short haul from one farm to the next and $1500 worth of paper later I was booming her down and proceeding as planned

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hillbillyOH

02-09-2008 14:12:30

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:56:52

Allan, it's one thing when you endanger yourself; it's another thing when you endanger others.

What if that tractor had bumped off and killed someone on the highway?

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MN Scott

02-09-2008 16:11:01

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to hillbillyOH, 02-09-2008 14:12:30

Did it ever occur to you guys that since the trailer is parked in front of his house that maybe he already removed the chains before he snapped the picture? Geezz...

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 16:22:48

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to MN Scott, 02-09-2008 16:11:01

I have to load/unload out there in the middle of the hi-way because I can't get that trailer threaded up here in the hills during winter. Upside is that there isn't much traffic here.

Gotta drive it in for the last bit of "slick/steep" stuff. Whooie! You think that wasn't a cold ride?! :>(

Don't ever buy real estate in the summertime when it's nice and pretty. Look at it in the dead of winter. :>(

Allan

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Sloroll

02-09-2008 14:09:37

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 13:56:52

I do the same if it is just to town and back. SOme times I chuck a split piece of fire wood in front and back of the tires just for good measure.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 14:13:57

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Sloroll, 02-09-2008 14:09:37

I had kinda spaced off that mile long 7% grade coming down into this valley.

Uff-Da! Sure glad those rears are loaded with calcium!

I kept 'er under 60 the whole trip tho, so all is well that ends well I guess. It was still on the trailer when I got here anyway. :>)

Allan

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Chris(WA)

02-09-2008 16:00:22

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Allan In NE, 02-09-2008 14:13:57

Stayed on this time..... Glad I don't live near where you haul.

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Allan In NE

02-09-2008 16:07:53

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Re: Frequent Flyer Miles in reply to Chris(WA), 02-09-2008 16:00:22

Not to worry ol' Pard.

Nobody lives out here 'cept me and the wolves. :>)

Allan

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