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Kinnd of O/T Older Cummins, Hall Scott engines

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J Schwiebert

02-02-2008 20:02:56




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Is there a good site for these engines say in the time period from 1930 till 1955? Looking for some information on how Cummins engines were identified in the Basic model H and Model A Cummins. Also Hall -Scott's involvement with International trucks and if you really know your IH trucks what about the big R model Continental engines for NON MILITAY models IH trucks. Thanks for any help. J.




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noncompos

02-02-2008 21:24:04




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 Re: Kinnd of O/T Older Cummins, Hall Scott engines in reply to J Schwiebert, 02-02-2008 20:02:56  
This is probably stuff you already have, but just in case...
My 50 Motor Trk Man (1936-49) has the R-6513, R-6752, R-6586 and the R-6602 in the Cont engine section--basic specs, otherwise pathetic: 6 pages for whole section and mostly drawings at that. If there were others used later they could be in later Motor issues.
A couple old incomplete catalogs (1930 and 34) IH sections show:
"HS-54, 54C-W1-2 Hall Scott Eng 151 29-33"
"HS-74-74C--W3 Hall Scott Eng 152 29-33" (those are out of the 34 catalog, that ends with 33, so those models may've gone past 33).
The 1930 catalog shows the 54's as 21/2 Ton; the 74's, with the addition of Model HS104C, as 31/4-5 Ton, and states the engines are "A.C.F. (Hall Scott)", but doesn't state any engine numbers. The 30 catalog also omits the "W1-2" and the "W3" parts of the listings in the 34 catalog.
It also shows, under A.C.F. engines:
"A.C.F. 4cyl (Hall Scott Mtr) #151 41/2x51/2";
"A.C.F. 4cyl (Hall scott Mtr) #152 43/4x51/2".
Might find more info on oldihc.org; don't know of a good diesel site, but the guys at aths.org are always discussing highly obscure technical points of various Cummins, so they might help with knowledge or a site.
Weren't those marine "Invader" engines on smokstak Hall Scotts?? If so, some of those posters may be Hall Scott fiends.
That's about all I have. Good luck.

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