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The right thing to do?

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super99

01-31-2008 17:38:10




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Our son got married Tuesday night. They were going to wait till spring, but her dad has cancer and it kicked in big time and they gave him just a short time to live and she wanted to get married with him there so they did. I met him the first time that night and noticed several Farmalls out by the barn when we pulled in, so we got to talking tractors. Man, I wish he was healthy, I think we could have had a ball going to shows and helping each other out. I got to thinking at work today, and so I called my son and talked to him and he called his wife and talked to her and then I talked to her and she is going to talk to her Mom about it.I would like to have one of her dad's tractors to fix up and save for when they have kids, so if I can turn them into old tractor nuts, then they can have one of their Gandpa's tractors, make a sign that this was Grandpa Howard's tractor. It would belong to their future children, I'd just hold it for them till they were old enough to have it.Something to tie them in with someone they never had a chance to meet. Daughter in law thought it was a good idea and is going to run it past her Mom and then Dad. I'm not trying to be a vulture waiting for him to die to get his tractor, but I know if something happened to me, I would like my grandson to be able to have one of Pawpaw's tractors. Am I nuts? Will let you know what I find out. Chris

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greenmisterg

02-02-2008 11:20:07




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Try and get as much as possible on a DVD recorder...Then you can share on the computer...but yes get it ALL in writing...



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skyharborcowboy

02-01-2008 17:43:18




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I forgot to mention, take photos and make videos of him with the tractors if he is in good enough physical condition to do so.

Joe



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skyharborcowboy

02-01-2008 17:41:50




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
There is one thing you must do now! Have him make a diary of each of his tractors. Where he got them, where he used them, why he bought them and why he kept them. They will treasure that more then the tractors themselves.

Joe



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paul

02-01-2008 12:28:44




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
You're gettin good advice. You have a great idea. You'll need paperwork on it, or the State & heirs will trip you up in about 5 minutes.

My brother in law doesn't want to write some things down, just his family will do the right thing..... . Ya. Well, I've forgotten about any of that then. The State freezes it, taxes it, and gives it to the heirs. Even if they would want to do the right thing, the state will hit them with an additional gift tax, and as it's all divided, which heir is supposed to do the right thing now, while the rest don't have to do anything?

That don't work. If it ain't in writting, it won't happen. And my brother in law has a nice family, think a lot of them. But - it ain't never going to happen. Wasn't my idea, I have _no issue_ here, other then - things don't work that way any more. It needs to be in writing.

--->Paul

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ArleninOr

02-01-2008 10:41:54




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Super99 Great idea.Had something similar happen here that way.A friend wanted the brakes fixed on a TO-20. Brought it to me and found out the engine was cracked top to bottom. The tractor had been his wife's dads. Debated about fixing it finally said go ahead.Meantime he had a heart attack {58 yrs} was in hospital for 5 months.Guys all got together and helped me to restore this tractor for them.New engine,brakes ,bearings,seals and whatever it took to make it look and run like new.Words can never express the looks on their faces when we delivered it to them.He cannot run the tractor anymore but just to know that there are people that care about them that much is a reward in it self. Best of luck and tell them that we will keep them in our hearts.

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GeneMO

02-01-2008 10:29:52




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Your plan will work as long as the girl is the only child. Otherwise they will come out of the woodwork to grab and take as fast as they can.

Talk to the man, get a bill of sale, do it while he is in his right frame of mind.


Good luck,, Gene



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Fla Farmer

02-01-2008 10:14:36




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I must echo all the sentiments expressed here. Can't stress the message from James H. enough. My brother just died, wanted his "stuff" left on the farm for the heirs to "carry on" where he left off. Unfortunately, as James has expressed, the stuff became part of the estate which had three very different and widespread heirs. Consequently, grandad's "stuff" and stock as well has become part of the estate and will go where all estates go - on the chopping block. Get it legal and in writing while time permits. The grandchildren will thank you.

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James Howell

02-01-2008 09:54:14




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
You are doing a good thing and best of all your heart and your intensions are in the right place.

Go have a long talk with Grandpa Howard. The tractor belongs to him and he can do with the tractor as he pleases. Let him know what you would like to do in his memory for his and your future grandchildren.

Here is where things get tough. Grandpa Howard needs to transfer ownership of the tractor to you with a Bill of Sale.

Once property becomes part of a person’s estate, the property may or may not “go to” whom it was intended by its owner.

You are doing the right thing.

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johnand cindy

02-01-2008 08:58:09




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
GO for it!!!!! !! May GOD bless you both!



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pcy

02-01-2008 12:57:32




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to johnand cindy, 02-01-2008 08:58:09  
when i was in ffa i redone my aunts 530 case. motor over haul reground used crank.,new paint and decals, new front tires, my mom payed for the parts, when it was done, my late uncle had bought it new, well it had blowed up and was set in a fence row after he passed it set for about 10 years, my aunt being on a fixed income tells me she will give me 8 burial plots in the locale cemetary and the case tractor which we agreed to , she transfered the deed to the plotsm and used the tractor to bushog her 3 acre lots for the next 12 years, we lived 50 miles appart so only seen her at famly reuinions and on ocasial visits, my mom passed in 1990 my dad in 97, my aunt died in 2000,(she had 2 kids both new the deal on the tractor) THE NIGHT OF HER VISITATION THE TRACTOR AND BUSHOG WAS gone nobody knew anything, the international pickup and 56 chevy he bought new werent touched however get it in writing or you have nothing, sorry for the long post

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maplehillfrm

02-01-2008 06:51:29




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
That sounds like a great idea, if its a go, he can actually start helping yo with it, it will keep him busy and make him feel good on the days t hat he is able to do something,, if that is possible of course,, maybe he wont be able to help at all, but get out of the house once in a while knowing that he still has t he chance to do something it looks like he clearly used to have a passion for, pat

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Bob Farrell

02-01-2008 06:28:12




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Super idea. Go for it. Talk to grandpa Howard direct (if he is up to it). You've got me thinking and inspired to do something for someone. We need a whole lot more of this in our lives. Cudos to you. bob f.



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Mike M

02-01-2008 05:53:36




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Maybe by being around you and having someone to talk tractors too and maybe watch or help in the fixing up of one of his tractors may just be of some help to him ? and give him a reason to get up in the morning ?



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Ken L

02-01-2008 04:39:25




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
It's great to know that there are still people out there who are willing to go way out of there way to such things. Not only will this tractor be grandpa Howards tractor but it will also be the tractor that you brought back to life. One tractor, two grandpas. I think it's great!!



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JMS/.MN

01-31-2008 22:28:52




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Damn!!- It" something most of us would not even think of. But the idea is nothing short of fantastic- great offer. Pretty much a winner, all the way around. I have 6 kids, 14 old tractors- some for everyone- tell them I hope to live ling enough to fix them all, but still buying. Never can have too many. Your idea is simply great- wonderful legacy to remember the past, and especially the family.

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730virgil

01-31-2008 20:29:14




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
tall kid's mom passed away when he was 11. i have encouraged him to keep some of her things to give to his children if he ever has any. i think what you are trying to do is great idea.



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Lumpy

01-31-2008 19:23:28




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I think that this is one of the GREATEST ideas I have ever heard. IF I was in your shoes, now that you have spoken to the family members, I would ask Grandpa Howard myself. One more thing... take some kleenx or a handkerchief with you. Something tells me that you/him or both will need it! One more thing, give that old gent a hand shake from all of us!



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John S-B

01-31-2008 18:48:38




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I think the guy would be honored to have that done. I'd bet he would feel real good knowing that his daughter had married into good people. That's one of a dad's greatest concerns for his daughter IMHO.



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Steve in MN

01-31-2008 18:39:32




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I'll chime in here. Do it if you can. I think it's a great idea. As long as the rest of the family is in favor of it, which it sounds like they are. Good luck to you and yours!



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Dave H (MI)

01-31-2008 18:33:07




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Isn't that just a terrible loss to all concerned? My mother went that way. She never saw my kids but I have a lot of her best things here I am saving for them. I am certain that is why she gave them to me and not my siblings. Go for it. You sir, are good people.



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led

01-31-2008 18:09:02




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
I think this will be a nice tribute to grandpa Howard.

Led



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ric1

01-31-2008 18:04:21




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
all i have to say is you made my eyes kinda water up when i read that i think thats a great idea it just doesnt get any better than that i wish you good luck RICK



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Lanse

01-31-2008 18:01:11




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
No, youre a great guy. I'd want you to do the same for me if the case came up. I'd ask him about it, im sure he would agree and give you his blessing. Good luck.



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paulatclf

01-31-2008 18:01:01




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to super99, 01-31-2008 17:38:10  
Yes, its a great idea. I hope someone would do that for my family in that situation. You're a good man.



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HENRY E NC

01-31-2008 19:59:08




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to paulatclf, 01-31-2008 18:01:01  
Gotta kick in here and say how great that is.Wish I could be that thoughtful Henry



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Jim in N M

02-01-2008 08:02:47




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 Re: The right thing to do? in reply to HENRY E NC, 01-31-2008 19:59:08  
Hi, I think you should just make a copy of this whole page,A lot of good responces from a lot of good tractor people. Grandpa howard would see how good tractor people really are!! Jim in N M



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