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Starer cable battery stud problem

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old

01-18-2008 17:14:27




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I have a start that works well but the stud you hook the cable to is stripped. I tried to re tap it with a 5/16 tap but its to far gone. What would be the next size small in metric?? I figure doing it that way will save me some big bucks at the re builders because if I take it in the have that replaced they will want to do it all and they will not do just the stud. I have the metric taps and I know I could do it the hard way and try till I find the right one but if you guys can tell me I stay a bit warmer LOL
Thanks

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the Unforgiven

01-19-2008 06:55:10




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
All valuable advice old, but next time use a die for male threads, it works a lot better. I just couldn't resist.



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Duner Wi

01-19-2008 06:30:36




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Bob has the fix but this might work. Those repair studs get at a starter repair shop.
In a pinch buy a coupling nut, remove the existing nut next to the case and attach the coupling nut. These come in different lengths. Now just bolt your cable onto the coupling nut.



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36 coupe

01-19-2008 02:43:38




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Buy a starter repair kit for 10.00.It will have a new copper stud in it.The Ford repair stud will work if you can find one.



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old

01-19-2008 08:31:39




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to 36 coupe, 01-19-2008 02:43:38  
That would work if it didn't need to be solder on, in side of the starter and I don't have that big a soldering iron



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36 coupe

01-20-2008 02:08:15




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-19-2008 08:31:39  
I buy the large soldering irons in a used tool shop.A bernzomatic torch with a soldering iron tip does good work on heavy soldering jobs.Mice like to chew on the old woven cloth cords on irons so I keep mine in an old mail box.



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Gene Dotson

01-19-2008 02:24:29




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Old;
My solution was to drill and tap the center of the stud with a 10x24 tap and using a screw and washer to hold the cable tight. Has held up for 4 years now... Gene



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Keith-OR

01-18-2008 22:58:48




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Hey Rich, use either 7mm or 7.5 mm. My tape& Die set has both, might check and see what ya have. Also Ya might see if ya have 9/32(7.14mm) die.


Keith & Shawn



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Gerald J.

01-18-2008 19:45:34




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
5/16" is essentially 8mm. Next standard metric size smaller is 6mm and its smaller than 1/4".

Gerald J.



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Crem

01-18-2008 19:19:44




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
I know that it wouldn't look the nicest, but what if you took a 5/16 nut and drilled and tapped a hole in one of the flats for a set screw. Then weld a short 5/16 bolt on top of the nut to fasten the cable. You could cut the old damaged stud off to the height of the nut to keep the height down.



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old

01-18-2008 19:21:38




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to Crem, 01-18-2008 19:19:44  
Starter stud is brass so welding something there is not an option



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Crem

01-18-2008 19:52:46




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 19:21:38  
I meant to use a steel nut with the set screw and then weld a steel bolt on top of that.



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Bob

01-18-2008 17:26:14




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 Sounds like you could have used one of these: in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Third Party Image

"Repair stud cuts its own thread. Also for use as an extension on solenoids with 5/16-inch stud. Fits Ford/Mercury/Lincoln and more."

(Available in 5/16" NC or SAE thread.)



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old

01-18-2008 19:06:46




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 Re: Sounds like you could have used one of these: in reply to Bob, 01-18-2008 17:26:14  
This ones so far gone that the 5/16 tap felt good but when I put a nut on it didn't tighten down ans started to strip again. When I got this tractor the guy had used 2 washers and a bolt to hold the battery cable to the stud which I know didn't help it any



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Bob

01-18-2008 20:03:27




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 Re: Sounds like you could have used one of these: in reply to old, 01-18-2008 19:06:46  
With the repair stud, you can remove the bottom nut that normally stays on the stud, next to the insulating washer, and screw the repair stud all the way down to good threads. (Have to take the starter apart and hold the stud from the INSIDE, so as not to tear the soldered connections loose from the field leads.)

I've almost NEVER seen a stud so bad the repair stud wouldn't "save" it.



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old

01-18-2008 21:04:58




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 Re: Sounds like you could have used one of these: in reply to Bob, 01-18-2008 20:03:27  
Bob that maybe an option if I can find out where to find one that is. I had hoped to do it by going with the metric size but maybe that will not work. Where do i find one of them if my idea doesn't work



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Bob

01-18-2008 22:20:08




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 Starter repair studs in reply to old, 01-18-2008 21:04:58  
REAL auto supply stores will have them, as well as an old-fashioned auto-electric repair shop, if you still have one in your area.

I have some extras, if you can wait a few days, I'd send you one N/C.



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old

01-19-2008 11:43:20




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 Re: Starter repair studs in reply to Bob, 01-18-2008 22:20:08  
Bob, well O'reilly's didn't have them so if you could maybe I should try that before trying the 8MM nut I have been thinking about



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old

01-19-2008 08:29:11




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 Re: Starter repair studs in reply to Bob, 01-18-2008 22:20:08  
I'll look in town today and see if O'Reilly"s has them since I have to go to town any how. I'll let you know if I can't find one



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Steven f/AZ

01-18-2008 17:25:40




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Dunno if my math is quite correct, but I believe there are 2.54 centimeters per inch...

5/16 inch = 0.3125

0.3125 x 2.54 = 0.79375cm

So I would say the next size smaller would be 0.7 cm or 7 millimeters.

If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone with more experience will point you in the right direction...



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Greg_Ky

01-18-2008 17:24:03




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 Re: Starer cable battery stud problem in reply to old, 01-18-2008 17:14:27  
Try this Rich



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