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Beef -hanging weight price??

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Dave from MN

01-11-2008 13:35:12




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What is going rate for a angus carcass. I hauled in 3 that I bought live and am wondering what I should charge the people getting 1/2"s and 1/4"s. In the past I have let them have it for my cost, but this year I think I am gonna ask for a bit more for my trouble, but dont want to charge to much. This would be just for the hanging carcass, no processing. This is in central MN. These were nice stocky steers averaging 1050#"s.

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JMS/.MN

01-11-2008 21:54:37




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
You should establish the price before delivery. As a customer, I would want to know that. For years I sold quarters or halves- charged the buyer top market for live weight on the day I delivered, and I delivered them to the butcher shop of their choice- within 20 or so miles. I had no marketing cost, but did the delivery- thus the reason to take top of the market. Never had anything but compliments on the quality of the grain-fed steers. They got all cuts at about store hamburger price. Weighed the trailer in and out at a local scale. Customer paid processing, according to what they wanted done. Front quarters are worth less, since they have more bone % than the rear, but local processors split cuts front and rear, rather than by quarters, so everyone gets the same from each quarter. Now, without steers, I buy them the same way.

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redtom

01-11-2008 17:24:49




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I pay a local farmer 1.49 lb, 1/4 or 1/2 doesn't matter. Plus I pay cut/wrap/freeze @ .34 lb, and my share of $30 kill.



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hobbyfarmerinwi

01-11-2008 17:01:37




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I sell for $3 plus processing. I have customers on a waiting list.



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IaGary

01-11-2008 15:08:46




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
Those 1050# steers would bring $987 at top market price right now here in Iowa.

If they pay the processing to the locker, figure what you want for premium from there.

I sold some to local customers last year for $100 dollars a head over the market price.

Or with that price you would get 1087 a head or 544 a half.

Remember they pay the butcher. And give you about 1.85 a pound for dressed meat at a 60% yield.

Gary

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NE IA

01-11-2008 14:44:48




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
You mentioned 1/4's. Where I have gotten mine in the past we take hanging weight price--Then subtract 10 cents from price for front, and add a dime for hinds. Hinds are prefered as you probably know. Farmer still gets same hanging weight price for the beef. We just think it is fair to pay extra for the better cuts, and make the fronts more desirable.



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Dave from MN

01-11-2008 14:48:26




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to NE IA, 01-11-2008 14:44:48  
I beleive I have it arranged where they split the front and hind quarters equally, I hope that is what they have been doing, havent had any complaints only more requests. With petro so high a few couldnt afford a 1/2.



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NE IA

01-11-2008 16:07:55




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 14:48:26  
Sorry I have the gift of gab, but not so good explaining.

The hind quarters are more VALUABLE per pound (in our opinion)--nothing to do with weight. We usualy figured second and third rib years ago, and argued every year as to what was correct. Probably depends on the breed, some are build different.

The rear loin, round steaks etc.

Fronts are good no doubt, just perhaps not as good of cuts more roasts and ground beef.

Some folks don't have any preferances, I personaly will gladly give the extra for the rear. I think it is still a good deal compared to the front even at the lesser cost. And there is no way I want ground beef compared to steak if they can make a steak instead.

My brother sometimes makes a whole half into ground beef from a choice critter, I think that makes very expensive burgers. I would take a old cow if its ground beef only.

I certianly do not want to downplay your sales, but a very close friend that runs a locker plant says that I can not afford to buy hanging beef. They can get boxed beef and cut it up for me lots cheaper per pound. Not buying the bones, and the fat being trimed off moreless. That being said is if you trust all farmers, and assume the state inspections are perfect for detecting drugs etc. I buy hanging beef because I get organtic beef at the same price as --the unknown steer and unknown origin. My good farmer friend has been organic for twenty five years, and his farm (dads) was since 1970. Also I trust him and his perhaps radical organtic perspective 100 % plus. I personaly think the organic rules are maybe overdone--like no mouse poision on the dairy farm. His corn crop is less than fair compared to the big guys, and weeds get there fair share of the manure that was intended for the corn.

I ramble alot, but when he first farmed he was very big in no till. A few years before he went organtic we tosses all the beef livers when we home butchered--alot of white spots within. Now not so much as any. That is what makes me prefer the organtic. Now that I have researched it, I refuse to eat any liver. My dad always said that I still eat eggs, and where the heck did the egg come from?

So hope I cleared my original reply up.

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John51

01-11-2008 14:20:50




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I'm selling for $1.85 hanging weight. They pay for killing and processing. I deliver to the butcher shop and often pick up and deliver beef if it's local.



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ShepFL

01-11-2008 14:15:33




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
Guess I got a steal then at the local fair. I bought whole beef cut and wrapped for 1.85/lb and $100 lot (kill) fee. Hog was .75 / lb.

These are the animals that the banks and others don"t want. They pay the high prices for well being of the youth but rarely use the meet. I always load my freezers this way in the fall.

FWIW here in N. FL



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TGIN

01-11-2008 14:09:27




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I hauled in 4 yesterday . I get $2.00 lb. hanging weight . I deliver and they pay prossesing . I dont ever have any problem getting rid of`em . Always have people asking for more . There still getting good beef for under $3.00 a pound , cant do that at the store other than some Jersy hamburger .



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i luv farmalls

01-11-2008 14:01:37




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I charge $1.55 a pound hanging weight and they pay the processing.



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Gun guru

01-11-2008 13:50:54




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
I have wondered about how livestock is priced. (I dont know much about it) Other then that beef comes from cows. I have a distant cousin that has raised a bull, to be taken to a slaughterhouse. Havent talked to him in 10 years. What does hanging price mean? If you bring a 1300# animal into get butchered how much money would you get? About what percentage of the animal can be used to be sold? I may sound ignorant but..... I am. I was a city boy my whole life and moved out to the country (somewhat) and there are about 20-30 farms within 5 mile radius of me.

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John51

01-11-2008 14:18:26




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to Gun guru, 01-11-2008 13:50:54  
Figure 60% of live weight for hanging weight. It may run higher or lower depending on the breed, condition, etc. Hanging weight is just that, what it weighs hanging on the rail after it's been skinned, gutted, head and feet removed, ready to be processed. Another important thing for beef is aging. It should hang for a couple weeks before the cutting.



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Dave from MN

01-11-2008 14:37:23




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to John51, 01-11-2008 14:18:26  
Kind of curious what others have their beef aged for. Have been doing it for 14 days the last few years, person I buy from says 21 days. Locker says the wait a week, any longer than that doesnt make a difference unless it is 21 days or longer.



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hayray

01-11-2008 16:14:24




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 14:37:23  
My locker hangs it for 14 days, that is one of the many reasons I go to them, a lot of them won't hang it long enough.



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pair-a-dice farm

01-11-2008 15:22:36




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 14:37:23  
aging adds to flavor and mostly tenderness. Most grocery store meat is aged little if any. I age mine 21 days



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Walt Davies

01-11-2008 19:36:17




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 Re: Ignorant? in reply to pair-a-dice farm, 01-11-2008 15:22:36  
You must be English 21 days I couldn't get that stuff past my nose to eat it.
I was charging 2.25 hanging and I paid all processing. May have to raise my prices though.
Walt



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Keith in NW MO

01-11-2008 13:43:19




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 Re: Beef -hanging weight price?? in reply to Dave from MN, 01-11-2008 13:35:12  
Asking price in the North today on Brownfield was 152 hanging. We have been 160 for years but 185 wouldn't be out of line. This is still less than half of retail if you purchased the meat in town.



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