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Sawyer

01-11-2008 10:25:56




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I was talking to a freind of mine adout gettin a tractor engien unstuck and he told me to poor karosine into it and it will loosen it up.

P.S. it is a 1949 John Deere "B" if it matters




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Dave from MN

01-17-2008 07:26:08




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 Re: OT trailer floor in reply to bhb, 01-17-2008 07:22:33  
I have always been told rough cut white oak, and use every year douse it with a wood preservative oil.



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Andy Motteberg

01-11-2008 21:17:03




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
PB Blaster or Brake fluid works well for loosening a engine.



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Jim in NY

01-11-2008 18:32:00




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
There are alot of fixes for this problem " if " the rings can hold up to the breakaway thrust that happens when and " if " one is lucky enough to even get the crank to move without breaking rings, ect.

My thoughts on this are the rubbing alcohol or auto trans (or mixture of both), also deisel fuel has alot of Hydrogen energy releases when heated (expansion) along with some internal heat... best way to accompish this is to get one of the Katz type heaters that go into the lower radiator hose and isolate it from heating up the entire radiator by blocking off the upper hose and the "upward side of the heater at the installation point -- that way you are only heating what is in the block and around each cylinder. Let it do it's heating for some time, perhaps a week or two" then gently nudge the crank with a bar a little at a time until anf " if " you get lucky. It's amazing what a little heat at operating or above temperatures can do. Good Luck.

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dave guest

01-11-2008 18:05:32




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Brake fluid with head removed. Burn small rags in cyl. Keep eye on it and bucket of water. Did this to A five years ago. Still running good. Also big bar on flywheel, still be careful. Prob ably I was lucky.



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old

01-11-2008 14:25:15




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
I have un stuck a good many engines over the last 10 years or so. JD included. As a matter of fact I did my B just a few years ago and heres how I did it. I filled the cylinders with transmission fluid and then jacked the front up about 18 inches so the fluid would get to the top of the pistons. After a couple week it was freed up and with in a month I was driveing it. I know for a fact it had been locked up for 15 plus years because I have owned it since the 70s

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Walter Squires

01-11-2008 12:59:35




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
I have always found if you have to go as far as to use penetrating oil to break it loose your going to have to tear it down anyway because the cylinders will will be pitted and the rings stuck in the piston. The best way I found to break a two cylinder loose is to disconnect the rods from the crank, remove the head, remove the block with the pistons still in and put it in a press and push them out.

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Janicholson

01-11-2008 12:16:27




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Some of the below is a bit strange to me, ethylene Glycol and sugar aren,t reasonable. Take off the valve cover. Remove the rocker arm system to allow bo the valves in both cylinders to close. (If they wont close, spray the stem with PB Blaster and tap it with a plastic faced hammer to get it unstuck. With the valved shut, filling the cylinders is easier. I would pull the sparkplugs and blow out any water or trash with air. (if a bunch of rusty flakes come out, I would just pull the enging down, it will not be an easy fix.) then with clean cylinders, I would put the plugs back in, and use Auto trans fluid to fill the intake system, and exhaust system manifolds. Then open one of the valves on each cylinder letting fluid into the cylinder.
This should be able to be done with a flatbar, and a bit of chain. Keep filling the manifold until the level is above the cylinder. Let it set for two weeks. Pull the plugs, and use the starter to bump the engine. repeated taps on the starter is best, holding it does nothing but heat the starter motor. Good luck, JimN

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hay

01-11-2008 11:58:27




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
i use pure undiluted antifreeze for rusty/rusted parts.



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Balatonm

01-11-2008 11:27:35




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Don't know if this works but I saw a post on here that mentioned useing wisky to brake free a stuck engine. wonder wether it was for the tractor or the guy.



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RustyFarmall

01-17-2008 07:21:50




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 Re: Plastic gas containers - any clever way to vent ? in reply to Mark - IN., 01-16-2008 22:24:06  
Be nice to your rat friends. Feed 'em. The smell usually goes away after just a few days.



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Mathias NY

01-11-2008 11:21:52




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
A John Deere might be a little tough to unstick that way. Most techniques require covering the piston with penetrating fluid. On the Deere, the pistons run horizontally, so even if you fill the entire combustion chamber with fluid, it is likely to leak out around the valves. I'm not sure how I would break an engine like that free without completely removing the block from the engine.



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M Nut

01-11-2008 11:15:01




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Supposedly rubbing alcohol will work too? So I've heard anyway.



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1chicken

01-11-2008 10:49:30




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
try coke cola it will work



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RustyFarmall

01-11-2008 10:35:09




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Don't beleive everything you hear. More often than not, nothing will work, and you have to break the pistons and remove them in pieces.



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Lanse

01-11-2008 10:33:12




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
i've heard that you light it up and that will supposidly loosten the piston, but i dont know. Talk to Old about un sticking it, he has alot of good ways.



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Balatonm

01-11-2008 10:32:36




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 Re: ??????? in reply to Sawyer, 01-11-2008 10:25:56  
Diesel fuel works good, Mystery Marval oil is suposed to work really well to, everybudy has the own mix.



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