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Big Hunter

01-11-2008 04:19:42




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I know this can vary alot but I was just wondering how many hours you guys put on your tractors. Say if you had a 100 acre chicken farm, 2 tractors, grew corn and whatever kind of grains. this farm is from say 1965 through 1995. Or dairy farm whatever I was just trying to close up some of the variables. I have a john deere backhoe and dig for plumbing and electric companies, have had the backhoe for almost 5 and a have years and am just now turning over 2,000 hours. thanks

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kyplowboy

01-11-2008 18:17:27




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
Don't know about a 100 acre chiken farm, every one I know that has chikens has 2 to 8 houses that are .25 acres each, have about 27,500 birds/house/flock, and fiqure on 5.5 flocks a year so 100 acres of chikens would be a whole lotta birds. Commercial chicken operations don't put as many hours on a tractor as you would think. Running a cruster, loading, reloading, and spreading litter does not take alot of time. Some of the loading and spreading is offen done by some one else other than the farmer.

Here is how much I have been using my tractors. Before this coming year I have had 3.5 acres of tobacco, 20-30 acres of hay, and 30 acres of pasture ground. Ford 6700 is used for cutting and baling hay, mowing pasture ground, spreading all the fertlize, moving hay summer and winter, turning, disking, cultimulching, and field cultivator work on tobacco ground and annual hay crops (millet and ryegrass or wheat, all the spraying of the tobacco ground, and anything else that gets done that the is too big for the 960. I put (from the meter) 225 to 250 hours a year on it. The ford 960 (yes some are still being used) runs the rake and tedder in hay, pulls the tobacco setter, plows tobacco, pulls the fencing trailor, sowing seed and I use it alot to jocky tobacco wagons with. I put 45-60 hours a year on it. This year I will be raising 20 acres of corn and 40 acres of beans. The 960 will not be used much on this but the 6700 will disk the 20 acres two times, spread fertilizer, and plant the 60 acres. Don't know how much time that is going to take up. I am hoping not much with a 14 foot disk and 6 row planter.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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kyhayman

01-11-2008 13:17:56




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
I used to be pretty consistant. 250 hrs per year on the Ford 7710 86 hp with C/H/A and loader since I fed with it in the winter and liked th a/c in the summer. Mowing tractor Ford 7610 got right at 100 hrs per year, and the raking tractor Ford 7600 between 50 and 60 hrs per year. My dad's 3 tractors get about the same at his place. I've got 300 acres, he's got 175 but most of the custom work is on his.

Added a skid loader a few years ago and what I found was that it gets about 100 hrs per year on the farm but the hours on the cab tractor dropped to about 100 per year. Skid loader took over most of the loader work. The net effect was it took 50 hours less to do the same amount of work. Just amazed me how much time you save not having to stop to shift gears doing loader work. Skid loader also uses a LOT less fuel per hour than the cab tractor. I do get a few hundred hours per year with it off the farm for loader and backhoe work, runs around 300 or so. Its an early 90's 1845C Case.

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thurlow

01-11-2008 12:26:16




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
Before "everything" went no-til, we averaged about 600-650 hours on the row-crop tractors; the couple that were also used for chores/feeding got about 800..... .....



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Thack

01-11-2008 10:06:28




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
My FIL has a 1967 706 that was bought in 1968. The 706 was the tillage tractor for 500 acres, pulled a 5x14 and 13' disc...maybe had a cultivator for it to. There were also cattle and hogs but I believe the M and 300u did all the lighter work. Anyway, the tractor has 4700 hours.

That is about 100 hours a year, the acres came down over the years, about 180 now. Today the tractor disc's about 90 acres a year and not much other work.

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T-Rev

01-11-2008 09:12:21




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
This comes from an extended family operation, 900 acres, I"m in the seat enough to know, but not everyday. But this is something we talk about frequently while farming. I"m thinking about 200 acres on my own, and am really interested in the current operation.

How many field operations do you do with a your equipment (non-truck). With no-till, grain trucks, a grain leg, average full-time equipment and a self propelled sprayer you should have very little tractor time.

We"ll figure our 900 acres of grain on No-till corn, and assume the bean half is close enough for this estimate 12 acres/hr plant = 75 hours
10 acres/hour sidedress = 90 hours
40 acres/hr self propelled sprayer = 22.5 hours
2nd pass spraying = another 22.5
third bean spray is accounted for by figuring sidedress the whole 900 acres
straight from the meter 190 hrs combine
60 hours grain buggy
Plus I"m going to rip all 900 acres every 7 years, so I actually rip 130 acres/yr, at 8 acre/hr =16 hr.

Bush Hogging and other odds and ends don"t make me any money, so why should I put many hours doing these tasks? I"ll put in 80 extra misc. tractor hours for tile repair, bush hogging, loader, any minor discing( to smooth ruts) etc. plus I"ll multiply the total by 15% (except the combine, grain buggy and misc. since they are from the meter or added anyway)for transport, hookup, and machine repair and setup while running

So (75+90+22.5+22.5+16)*1.15 = 260
And 260+190+60+80= 550
So .61 equipment hours per acre
Only 310 hours is tractor time.

This should be fairly accurate, and a similiar 200 acre guy should somewhat approximate this percentage
Lets say (200/900)*470*1.1 for small equipment while keeping the whole 80 misc. hours = roughly 200 hours for a lean operation.
Optional is as follows: He should put roughly 50 hrs on the combine, so pulling gravity flows will add another 100hrs, maybe another 15 hours on an auger tractor, and 60 hrs of tillage, plus double his per acre time to spray with a tractor mount, minus the ripping and grain buggy time and he could be pushing 360 hours.

He"d also have to have 3 tractors + a combine for harvest. But in my lean operation scenarios you"d never need more 2 tractors + combine. Actually could use 1 if done right, but no one would risk having a major breakdown or getting stuck.

Anyone agree or disagree?

Trevor

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farmer boy

01-11-2008 09:01:29




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
The Kubota gets used about an hour and a half a day on average and it comes out to about maybe 500-600 hours a year. The last few years we"ve put more on it because we"ve had a whole bunch of calves. I think it has 3800 hours on it right now and was bought new in 98. The 185 and 200 get about 250-300 hours a year but being it that the tachs don"t work I"m really not sure.



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davediehl@hotmail.com

01-11-2008 08:49:48




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
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Currently working under 100 acres a year, this one gets about 40 hours a year. We have a 2745 to plant and work ground as well, and the 1080 is used for finishing. The 2745 received about 50 hours for the year and the 1080 added about 30 as well. They all look like new and spend most of their life in the shed.

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davpal

01-11-2008 21:13:44




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 01-11-2008 08:49:48  
There is one of those Masseys just like that in the Michigan Farm Trader for sale. Says it needs work on the hydraulics I think. I was just showing it to a buddy of mine and told him that it was pretty big for a 2 wd tractor and would make a stellar restoration project. They were asking $3650 for it. Looked pretty good but not nearly as good as yours. Reminds me of the 2-180 White.



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davediehl@hotmail.com

01-11-2008 22:35:32




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to davpal, 01-11-2008 21:13:44  
Thats a very good price for a 2805. Even with hydro issues, you will be money ahead of a comparable sized unit of green paint. This one only has 25xx original hours on it. Original rear tires and new 4 rib fronts. It still gets a coat of wax every month. This one has been in several parades locally. At 194 ponies, it pulls about anything as long as you can get traction. There are alot of people who would like to give the 24 speeds a bad review, we have not had a problem with any of ours, at all!

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Aaron Ford

01-11-2008 10:43:55




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 01-11-2008 08:49:48  
That is one sweet looking ride. Duals, Diesel V8, Cab, Couple of weights hanging off the front... Can almost see that raincap come swinging open when the smoke rolls...

Heck, I wish I had a place to use it...

Aaron



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T-Rev

01-11-2008 09:16:55




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 01-11-2008 08:49:48  
Dave,
You're probably making good money running lean. Thats a real nice machine you have there.

Trevor



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Allan In NE

01-11-2008 09:06:30




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 01-11-2008 08:49:48  
Dave,

Did that tractor come out after the merger into AGCO?

That is one slick looking cab. Lots of glass. A lot like the Whites are/were.

Allan



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135 Fan

01-11-2008 11:53:29




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 09:06:30  
That is a nice looking tractor. Largest 2 wheel drive made I believe (190 pto hp). Massey were the first to come up with a structurally sound cab with a lot of glass. They had the most visibiltity in the industry and were also one of the quietest cabs. I think at one time Allis had the quietest cab. Dave



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davediehl@hotmail.com

01-11-2008 09:25:26




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 09:06:30  
The 2805 is more than 25 years old. It was before the Agco merger. Nice to run, and really quiet. You can actually talk on the cell phone with no problems. :-)



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Fordfarmer

01-11-2008 08:16:08




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
I have a dairy farm and crop about 335 acres, adds up to about 1000 hours per year. Big tractor is only used for tillage and chopping, gets right around 100 hours per year. Littlest tractor is also around 100 hours/year, mostly raking hay and pulling the cultipacker. 85 h.p. cab tractor and loader tractor get the most hours- both 300+ hours/year. Balance of hours split among other tractors, mostly on the open 85 h.p., hauling manure. (yes, in winter too- Grandpa never had a cab tractor and built the spreader shed too low for one with a cab.)

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Steve in MN

01-11-2008 08:02:18




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
One thing to keep in mind. Pre mid 1980's tractors ran the tach off of the camshaft (I believe) so when you ran them at pto rated speed an hour was an hour on the tach but when they were idling an hour was probably only 20 to 30 minutes on the tach. Later tractors have electronic tachs so no matter what you're doing an hour is an hour if it the tractor is just idling. The hours tend to rack up alot faster on those newer tractors. Steve

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Bill in Colo

01-11-2008 07:59:48




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
I tend to think more in terms of total tractor hours on all tractors maybe 600 per year.Once tractors around my place get over 5000 hours they seem to get used less, semi retire maybe.
The Bi directional 276II gets used almost daily jan to may feeding round bales bought new in 90 and has about 5900 hours.
I have a 2003 6290 massey bought withe 850 hours in 2005 and it only has 1200 hours now.
Have 5 other tractors that may get used on to 50 hours per year

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Tradititonal Farmer

01-11-2008 05:56:19




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
I put almost 200hrs/year on the tractor that I only use to feed round hay bales with,mowing and raking tractors get a lot of hrs some get only 5-10 hrs a year.Have an AC 5040 that the 6ft rotary tiller stays on that get maybe 20hrs/year



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IaGary

01-11-2008 05:05:31




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
With my 150 HP tractors I figure I will put on .75 to 1 hour per acre. That includes the combine also.

You would put on more hours by far. You run 52 weeks a year. Where we run hard 4 weeks in the spring and another 4 in the fall.

A small farm (100 acres) with livestock would put on more hours per acre cause they may run the tractor every day for chores.

And some guys like to hear the tractor run so they start it in the morning and let it run all day, (:~})

There are many variables.

Gary

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Allan In NE

01-11-2008 05:58:12




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to IaGary, 01-11-2008 05:05:31  
This one wouldn't start yesterday. Old 6 volt batteries are totally dead; wouldn't even move the fuel guage.

Don't understand it neither, 'cause the darned thing was running just fine when I parked it in July.

Am I pushing my tractors too hard? :>(

Allan

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NW MO Poppers

01-11-2008 12:21:07




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 05:58:12  
Allan,
is that a 60 stack mover? we have 2 hesston 30a's i believe. that stack mover looks bigger than ours. just curious. josh



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Allan In NE

01-11-2008 13:50:43




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to NW MO Poppers, 01-11-2008 12:21:07  
It's an old Leahman(sp?) 8-chain that I saved from the iron man's torch, fixed up and put back to work.

Darned thing works pretty good; is a bit old-fashioned by today's standards tho, I guess.

Sure works for me anyhoo. :>)

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hay

01-11-2008 12:03:18




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 05:58:12  
allan ne, i just can't imagine a battery would go down just sitting since july. heh heh heh. they sure don't make them like they used to do.



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Kent in KC

01-11-2008 07:16:27




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 05:58:12  
Yes, Allan, you need to lighten up. Workin that poor thing ta death.



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Jim Johnson

01-11-2008 07:15:51




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 01-11-2008 05:58:12  
Abuse like that could get you turned into the People Aganist Tractor Abuse (PATA)

OK OK I made it up, but there colud be one.Smile

Jim



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Triplerange

01-11-2008 04:47:37




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 Re: hours on tractor in reply to Big Hunter, 01-11-2008 04:19:42  
100-200 hrs a year but your senario depends on the hp of the tractors as well.



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