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Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads?

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tractorsam

01-06-2008 15:59:24




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I'm trying to get my MF-35 back on its wheels again and I'm trying to decide which my tires would be best to put on. I've got a mismatched set of 12.4x28 with some weather checking and about 40% tread, one has a cut (patched on the inside) between the treads. I also have a set of matched 11.2x28 with quite a bit of weather checking and at least 80% tread, one of which has a 3" cut in the side wall. The local tire shop may be able to patch it. I'm wondering what effects the location of the cut might have on the longevity of the repair? In a year or two I hope to replace with new but I'm at college and I'm just trying to come up with something decently usable for the time being. I just don't want to pay for a repair to the 11.2 if a sidewall patch doesn't stand a chance. Many thanks, tractorsam

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hd6gtom

01-07-2008 12:53:16




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 15:59:24  
I spent over 20 years in a farm tire shop. Are you going to be carrying anything on the 3 point? If so and you have a 3" cut in the sidewall, a boot isn't going to fix the problem. Good Boots have gotten very expensive the past couple years. Do yourself a favor, Call your local salvage lots and try to find a good used tire first.



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johndeereman

01-07-2008 05:08:06




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 15:59:24  
dont screw with a boot just cut a piece out of another tire and bolt it on with carriage bolts smooth head on the inside coat it with silicone will last for years i see guys with 120 horse jd gs in the 10,000 lb class pullin with tires like this



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Roy in georgia

01-06-2008 16:51:46




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 15:59:24  
it has been my experience that the sidewall patch will not hold in any case you should have a large boot put in and use a tube that is the only way I have gotten large holes to hold after repair.



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tractorsam

01-06-2008 17:49:10




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to Roy in georgia, 01-06-2008 16:51:46  
This is probably going to sound like a daft question but oh well - what exactly is a boot? They are tube type tires anyway, I just don't want the tube sticking out at all. Thanks, tractorsam



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JMS/.MN

01-06-2008 22:36:47




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 17:49:10  
Liners are hard to find now- decades ago they were common. Added some strength to the tire, and load capacity. Regarding a boot- here"s a tip on getting them to stickwhich may be difficult even after cleaning the inside of the tire. Install the boot, install a tube, and inflate it enough to put pressure on the boot. Leave it inflated for some hours while the glue adheres. Inflated tube takes the shape of the tire and holds the boot against it.

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Roy in georgia

01-06-2008 19:32:32




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 17:49:10  
also the "boot" is a term used mostly by the big truck tire repair guys but most tire men know what one is if you take it to a tire shop. One thing you can do is to go to the nearest truck stop with the tire off and find one of the mobile tire guys and ask them to put a "boot" in it because you came to them they shouldn't charge much for it $15-$20 if the tire is already off and you know it was put on correctly.

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noncompos

01-06-2008 19:29:15




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 17:49:10  
Dave S's reference brings back the "good 'ol days"...
Boots are just king size reinforcement "patches" that go on the inside of a tire where there's a cut or weak place; while they usually have sticky the tube mostly holds 'em in place (think the biggest I used on a pickup was about 16+ x 10+ or so)..wasn't familiar with the term "spot reliner"...
Reliners for cars and trucks ran completely around the inside of a tire, to reinforce the whole tire (wasn't familiar with 2-piece types). Handy when you'd had a flat at 50 or so, with one of the old bias ply tires, and a bunch of the cords came loose on the inside; they'd wear/pinch holes in the tube without a complete inside liner to protect the tube...
Now, if money was really short, the roads big gravel or creek beds, and a long way to town, you could cut the beads off a useless tire, hopefully a baldy, and put it inside your tire--a tire inside a tire--often lumpy/bumpy as he--, but it got you there and back...(BTDT)...

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Roy in georgia

01-06-2008 19:26:45




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 17:49:10  
basically it is a large patch that is thick it will cover the hole so the tube will not poke out I have never saw the reliners that Dave put a link too they look very good. we had a deer antler go into one of ours made a hole about the size of half dollar coin been patched with a boot and tube for over 10 years now.



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Dave Sherburne NY

01-06-2008 18:23:32




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 Re: Tires - cuts in sidewall or between treads? in reply to tractorsam, 01-06-2008 17:49:10  
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