Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

4020 smoke

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Gary Halcom

12-28-2007 15:45:08




Report to Moderator

My 4020 diesel starts good, and runs good but sometimes it will miss and blow dark smoke out of the stack for a few seconds then clears up and runs fine. I thought maybe I was not running the engine at high enough rpm. Changed fuel filters added fresh fuel with conditioner. Last time I noticed it when going up and incline. Any thoughts, from the pros.

Thanks




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Texasmark

12-29-2007 07:02:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-28-2007 15:45:08  
I had the Roosa Master pump go out once on a 4010. It didn"t do what yours is doing. It just got to where I couldn"t control it; would run at whatever rpm it wanted.

Puffs of smoke, if black, to me sounds of carbon buildup and carbon around the tips of the injectors occurs BTDT.

Additionally, the injector nozzles could be clogging either internally from the fuel, or externally from this carbon buildup. Once you screw up the fine mist spray pattern, you loose BTU"s, hence hp., and you get the black (unburned diesel) smoke.

I"d get something like "Sea Foam", obtainable in pt. cans at most any auto parts store for around $6 a can. It has oil, naptha, and alcohol in the mix and was initially designed to loosen up rings and clean up combustion chambers on outboard motors (for boats) in the colder climates where people liked to troll at low rpm"s and engines were getting all choked up.

I have tried regular diesel treatment and used Marvel Mystery Oil (also a solvent) for years, but even after doing that, when I did the Sea Foam thing things changed.

I use it in everything with an internal combuston engine around the place, everything, and have given all my tractors a "dose of castor oil". The results have been phenomenol. In most of my 40 year old tractors, it has completely cleaned up the exhaust. I recovered lawn mowers, weed eaters, chain saws and outboard motors.

If I were addressing a problem such as yours, I"d put about 3 cans in a tank of diesel (about $20 worth) and just give it time to do it"s thing. Go about your business normally for the most part.

However, it works best if you get it in the engine, give the engine a work out and then let it sit and back and forth. Allowing the engine to sit between operations (like overnight), gives it time to soak into the carbon and loosen it. About every 10 minutes (give or take) of operation, set the throttle to governor limit rpm"s and let her roar. Don"t be surprised what comes out of the stack.

I buy it by the case of 12 and usually ask for and get a 10% discount.

Besides, this is good for your engine, whether or not it solves your problem, it"s easy to administer, and is cheap. Can"t beat a deal like that, and who knows it may work.

HTH

Mark

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gary Halcom

12-30-2007 08:22:14




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Texasmark, 12-29-2007 07:02:33  
Mark, thanks for the suggestion on the use of Sea Foam. I have used this product, but not in this way.I Have also used the Marvel Oil. I will give this a try. The engine runs strong and smooth and does not always stutter. The fuel filters were,I think overly dirty so this may help. Again thanks to you and the other responders.

Gary



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Texasmark

01-01-2008 11:08:03




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-30-2007 08:22:14  
This is getting way down the list; page 7 now, you may not catch it, but I have had clogged filters too and you don't get what you described; you just get a tractor that doesn't respond to the throttle and doesn't want to run above an idle.

Mark



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
msb

12-28-2007 20:58:34




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-28-2007 15:45:08  
How many hours since the injection pump has been rebuilt ? 3,000 or more? Sounds like it possibly needs it redone.Are the engine speeds steady?Or does it sort of drift? Also check to see if you have good flow of fuel from the tank to the lift pump. Could be partially plugged.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
matthies

12-28-2007 18:29:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-28-2007 15:45:08  
If it's a late model, they have an air prefilter above/before the air cleaner that it normally serviced. And alot of people don't know this. chris



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
LBSMJS

12-28-2007 17:06:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-28-2007 15:45:08  
Your advance in the inj pump might be going out.If your nozzels check out.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RobMD

12-28-2007 16:11:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to Gary Halcom, 12-28-2007 15:45:08  
Dirty/clogged injectors, possible injection pump setting unnecessarily high.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gerald J.

12-28-2007 16:37:13




Report to Moderator
 Re: 4020 smoke in reply to RobMD, 12-28-2007 16:11:07  
Or restricted air intake like air filter, intake manifold or precleaner.

Gerald J.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy