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Cummins N14

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Blue Dog

12-23-2007 11:05:19




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Will an N14 Cummins idling return enough "hot" fuel to the tanks to keep the fuel from gelling if the temperature gets below -10. I use a winter rate of Howe's in the fuel and haven't had any trouble yet but the truck usually is in a heated shop at night. I can shut off the tank on either side and just use one tank if necessary. I have also put blended fuel in one side and just used that side when it is was below -10 but I really don't like using any blended fuel if I don't have to. I may need to make several trips to Wisconsin this winter and need your advice. Thanks

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cj in wisconsin

12-24-2007 04:19:26




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 Re: Cummins N14 in reply to Blue Dog, 12-23-2007 11:05:19  
Up here , Northern Wi, most of the diesel is blended usually about 60 /40 after the first of December, very few problems with that mix unless its 40 below and if it gets that cold, snuggle up to momma or your best dog and stay home!!!!



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Jim Johnson

12-23-2007 11:57:43




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 Re: Cummins N14 in reply to Blue Dog, 12-23-2007 11:05:19  
The answer is no and besides why take that chance when the conditioner is around $10.00.

Consider the cost if it doesn't.

Jim



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Blue Dog

12-23-2007 13:02:30




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 Re: Cummins N14 in reply to Jim Johnson, 12-23-2007 11:57:43  
Thanks for the reply Jim. I'm a firm believer in using Howe's in the winter. Even so I have been a little skeptical of not having any #1 in the tanks when the temperature is less than 0. This winter #1 is hard to find and very expensive if you do. I guess my question should be will ULSD with a winter rate of Howe's gell at -10 if you let the truck run all night? Dealer said they don't sell many new trucks with fuel heaters anymore because the hot return fuel seems to take care of the problem. I think I will put some blended fuel in one side and use that if it gets that cold.

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guido

12-24-2007 13:07:50




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 Re: Cummins N14 in reply to Blue Dog, 12-23-2007 13:02:30  
HEY BLUE DOG.
Diesel engines return fuel to the fuel tank.
It is an advantage in the winter, worm tank, and a disadvantage in the summer, worm fuel less b.t.u.'s available to the engine. I can tell you from first hand experience that not returnig the fuel to the tank would not hurt the engine or the fuel system. We had to stop fuel return in some of our trucks so that a system that we installed could measure fuel consumption/M.P.G.It could not measure fuel returned, that is why we stopped fuel from retuning to the tank. We dit it on a Cummins and a Detroit Diesel with no problems.
Guido.

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Jim Johnson

12-23-2007 15:20:46




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 Re: Cummins N14 in reply to Blue Dog, 12-23-2007 13:02:30  
If you have the winter rate of Howes in you will be fine. They never have #1 here and I've never had a problem when it's that cold.

Jim



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