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phil lowe

12-17-2007 19:37:11




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1999 chevy 1500 with 4.8 liter and 60000 miles on it $5000 ,,
I know someone selling one and I really need a decent truck ,,thought about 4x4's ,but harder on gas and insurence ,,this ones been well looked after.. any comments




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mj

12-21-2007 13:10:28




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
[quote:78de2180b4]If you don't have mountains to deal with it is a moot point. I pull my 5000lb tractor on a 18' flatbed with ease here in the midwest, I have a 2002 F-150 with a 5.4. I only go about 60 miles out at the most with it, a 3/4 ton or heavier would be a major waste of money for what I do, but what he needs it for may be different.[/quote:78de2180b4]

Yeah, 'moot' or not ..... ya never know, he might want 'broaden his horizons' someday and get off of the flats ..... better to have too much gun than not enough. Sure, I've pulled a 5500# goose/dump with 250 to 300 bu. of soybeans 12 miles into town on relatively flat ground with a 1/2 T Ferd but it was NOT a good idea ..... then or now. third party image

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02XLT4X4

12-19-2007 10:08:08




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  

mj said: (quoted from post at 10:00:34 12/19/07)
JD 1956 60 said: (quoted from post at 07:29:19 12/19/07) There have been a lot of negative comments about towing with a 1/2 ton pickup. I don't get it. I have a 1999 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71. 116000 mile. 5.3 V8, 4 wheel drive, factory tow package. Pull a 16 ft. bumper hitch trailer. I have no problems hauling the Ford 8n, 1950 JD A, 1955 JD 50, and the 1956 JD 60. Get 15 mpg hauling/loaded and 18-19 mpg empty. Better mileage than my wife gets with her 05 Lincoln Aviator.


Flat ground is one thing - hauling thru the mountains is a whole other deal. Monarch, Red Mountain, Slumgullion or even Douglas pass will killthird party imagea 1/2T in the summer's heat with a 5K load behind it, particularly if it's an auto tranny. Been there & done that! 8)


If you don't have mountains to deal with it is a moot point. I pull my 5000lb tractor on a 18' flatbed with ease here in the midwest, I have a 2002 F-150 with a 5.4. I only go about 60 miles out at the most with it, a 3/4 ton or heavier would be a major waste of money for what I do, but what he needs it for may be different. I don't think the 4.8 truck will be made for this kind of work though, it has a lighter drivetrain than say a 5.3 or 6.0 truck.

I have 4x4 and have even used it a couple times with the tractor on the trailer, I wouldn't own a truck without it. Empty on the highway I get about 18-19 mpg, loaded around 10. The only thing that would hurt your milage with it is a tad more weight and the higher height (even less of a factor with a GM, they still sit pretty low). CV joints are alot more effecient to turn than the u-joints of old and most still shut off the driveshaft going to the transfer case, at least my Ford does anyway.

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mj

12-19-2007 09:00:34




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to old, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  

JD 1956 60 said: (quoted from post at 07:29:19 12/19/07) There have been a lot of negative comments about towing with a 1/2 ton pickup. I don't get it. I have a 1999 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71. 116000 mile. 5.3 V8, 4 wheel drive, factory tow package. Pull a 16 ft. bumper hitch trailer. I have no problems hauling the Ford 8n, 1950 JD A, 1955 JD 50, and the 1956 JD 60. Get 15 mpg hauling/loaded and 18-19 mpg empty. Better mileage than my wife gets with her 05 Lincoln Aviator.


Flat ground is one thing - hauling thru the mountains is a whole other deal. Monarch, Red Mountain, Slumgullion or even Douglas pass will killthird party imagea 1/2T in the summer's heat with a 5K load behind it, particularly if it's an auto tranny. Been there & done that!third party image

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JD 1956 60

12-19-2007 05:29:19




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
There have been a lot of negative comments about towing with a 1/2 ton pickup. I don't get it. I have a 1999 Chevy Silverado 1500 Z71. 116000 mile. 5.3 V8, 4 wheel drive, factory tow package. Pull a 16 ft. bumper hitch trailer. I have no problems hauling the Ford 8n, 1950 JD A, 1955 JD 50, and the 1956 JD 60. Get 15 mpg hauling/loaded and 18-19 mpg empty. Better mileage than my wife gets with her 05 Lincoln Aviator.

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John M

12-19-2007 14:04:47




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to JD 1956 60, 12-19-2007 05:29:19  
I did the same thing, 98 Z71 pulling an M Farmall, never the first probelm. But the truck hes refering to isnt near the truck the Z71 is. Just wish I knew what he was going to pull.



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RodInNS

12-18-2007 19:25:35




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
Phil, I think your 3000 would be a lot of tractor for that truck. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it.... but make sure the trailer has good brakes and you have enough length to get just the right weight distribution. You want the trailer carrying 90% or so of the weight. A short trailer may not accomplish that... and it would be very important with that truck. A 3/4 or ton wouldn't be bothered so much if there was more weight on the truck.
It's somethig you want to be quite careful with... but like I said, I'd probably do it if it was just an occassional thing. I've hauled 3000 pounds of steel on a 6 wheel wagon that weighed 3/4 tonne or more, with my Ranger. No brakes on the wagon either... Things can be done if you're careful.

Rod

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John M

12-18-2007 16:29:13




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
So what exactly are you going to be hauling? Seems everyone has overlooked that and assumes your pulling some great ole big thing, when it would most likely be great for pulling say a Cub.



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Clint Youse MO

12-18-2007 04:39:09




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
my uncle had one of the trucks you are talking about or at least that engine in one wiht auto ny 3/4 ton got about 4 mpg better pulling a trailer because it was not always pulling hard and you could go somewhere wiht the enclosed trailer we could run 60 in his truck just not enough ponies it will work if you dont get in a hurry but around here used 3/4 tons are cheaper than 1/2 because the in town people will not even look at a 3/4 just a thought

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RustyFarmall

12-18-2007 04:31:12




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
If you are looking for a decent tractor hauler, keep looking. The 1500 with that engine would be a very light duty 1/2 ton. You won't be happy with it, and with a loaded trailer behind it, it may not even be safe.



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Walt Davies

12-17-2007 22:19:55




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
Personally I would look for 3/4 or 1 ton pickup so you can get the heavy duty hitches. Cost about the same an will haul a lot more with ease.
Look for an old couple who has given up RVing they usually have what you want with low mileage.
Walt



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I don't have a name

12-17-2007 22:13:48




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
Sounds like an excellent deal, and thats plenty of truck for hauling around a small tractor. With a 4x4 truck you lose a few miles per gallon, but I have had to use it to pull loads starting out offroad. All depends upon your needs, I need a 4x4 for some of the things I do, but if your area doesn't have winters or mud seasons, then a 2wd is problably all you need. I wasn't aware that there was any difference in the cost of insurance beween a 2wd and a 4wd truck and a call to your insurance company would sort that out, they'd be able to tell you exactly how much the insurance would be on that new truck if you were to buy it.

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old

12-17-2007 21:46:22




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
4X4 is only hard on gas if it doesn't have lock out and your a fool to own one that doesn't have them. As far as insurance I think a 4X4 is cheaper or at least in my case it seems to be. Now to aul a tractor you need a real truck and they stopped makeing them around 1990 or so. Now days they make urban trucks. They look like trucks but they are a family car with a bed sort of like the old el-camenos etc. Plus a 1500 chev is only good for maybe 4000-5000 LBS of trailor load being that new.

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IBorange in TX

12-17-2007 20:13:57




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
I haul an AC model WC, AC model G, AC model C all on a 26ft gooseneck trailer pulled by a "93 Ford diesel 1 Ton, 10mpg. If you haul 2 tractors, I would suggest a gn trailer. One tractor is okay for a bumper hitch, no more. I would also suggest a 3/4 or 1ton towing truck. Forget the 1/2 ton truck, just not stable enuf IMO. If you do a lot of hauling, then go diesel, but if you haul just a few times a year, go gas. A diesel is really for constant highway hauling. I'm not going to say one brand is better than any other, but each person has their own likes. That is what makes the world turn. Happy Hauling and Holidays..... ..
mb

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RobMD

12-17-2007 19:50:32




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 Re: O.T. tracter hauling vehicle in reply to phil lowe, 12-17-2007 19:37:11  
autos are harder on gas too. 1/2 ton not really stable for anything bigger than a farmall H (bumper dragging on the ground), but I know a lot of people who do carry more. 2wd is good enough for hauling tractors.



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