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Old Iron

12-16-2007 17:38:59




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Has anyone ever bought one of the 8'X8'X20' shipping containers, and use it as a storm-shelter?

If so,... how much was the container plus delivery?
If you bought the container to use as a storm-shelter, did you bury it partialy, or completely, or just anchor it securely above ground?

Thanks,

Ron




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tg in VA

12-18-2007 13:30:04




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
In the early days of the current Iraq war there were pictures of containers used as shops. They had the opening framed with a personnel door and window. When the shop was open, customers used the personnel door, when the shop was closed, the regular container doors would be closed and locked. This appears to be a simple solution for maximizing the utility of the container.
Also, at the ports, they set two containers about 40' apart and then set five containers over the opening to make a work shop. The five containers serve as the roof.

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Bob From Paradise

12-17-2007 19:15:05




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
The containers are made to handle a lot of weight but keep in mind the weight is supported on the corners not on the top, sides, front or back.

So yes you can bury them completely but the container on the top must have a kind of support structure that puts the weight on the corners and not on the sides or top.

Ocean shipping containers are stacked 8-15 deep on ships but the weight is never supported by the roof of the container.

also keep in mind the wood floor of the container can contain chemicals that is not compatible with the human body.

Jim here has some interesting comments on shipping containers as survival shelters. http://www.survivalblog.com/2007/12/three_letters_re_more_on_retro.html

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Leland

12-17-2007 17:03:40




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
find an old refrigated container they are already insulated . But you will have to modify the doors since all are closed and locked from the outside .



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higgins

12-17-2007 14:06:09




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 Re: Septic tank? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
I know someone that put a big septic tank - about 10 X 10 X 8H - into the basement hole where a house used to be and filled in around the sides. It would take a lot of suck to pull it out even if it wasn't filled along the sides.



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Old Iron

12-17-2007 08:20:58




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to dittmerku, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  

John S-B said: (quoted from post at 08:57:24 12/17/07) OI, I would definitely bury it, with the exposed side facing east if possible. (Or away from the prevailing wind in your area) I think coating it with the waterproofing tar would be a great idea, and you may want to insulate it also with the rigid foam sheets on the outside as well to avoid condensation on the inside. Probably at least 2" thick I'd think. And you should have a couple of bars you can put across the door on the inside to help prevent the wind from pulling it off in case of a direct hit.


Great ideas John S-B,... thanks!

Ron

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John S-B

12-17-2007 07:57:24




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
OI, I would definitely bury it, with the exposed side facing east if possible. (Or away from the prevailing wind in your area) I think coating it with the waterproofing tar would be a great idea, and you may want to insulate it also with the rigid foam sheets on the outside as well to avoid condensation on the inside. Probably at least 2" thick I'd think. And you should have a couple of bars you can put across the door on the inside to help prevent the wind from pulling it off in case of a direct hit.

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4 bottom

12-17-2007 06:34:49




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
Stacked two with the floor out of the top one for a wet bin. Worked great ED



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Ultradog MN

12-17-2007 04:22:52




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
I was looking through a Farm and Tack catalogue once and saw that they make a roof for setting on top of two shipping containers set side by side.

It was the curved pipe and canvas style but it got me thinking about buying a pair of containers and attaching a framed roof over them.

The advantage is that it would not be considered a permanent structure and thus no building permits and property tax increases.

Price for an 8' X 8' X 40' container was about $1500 but they wanted another $1200 each to deliver them to my property 125 miles away.

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cj3b_jeep

12-17-2007 05:58:53




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Ultradog MN, 12-17-2007 04:22:52  
I've seen this done and it looked pretty good. The beauty of it is that you can have the two ends pretty secure, except they are a bit narrow.



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Pooh Bear

12-17-2007 00:25:02




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
Thought I had a link somewhere:

Link

Someone posted this link a couple of years back.

Pooh Bear



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Old Iron

12-16-2007 22:13:17




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
Thanks fellas,... Yeah I thought if I got one, I'd bury it at least 5' deep in a hill side with the end doors exposed. I could then install a steel "walk-in" door in one of the swinging rear doors. Then I'd paint anything "exposed" on it, to make it look "purdy".third party image

I was wondering if some of you might have done the same.
How thick is the metal on the sides of those things, and would you reccomend coating the outside of a container (with something like what's used on basement walls) before burying?

Summer tornadoes here in Kansas, make me a little nervous.third party image

Ron

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Walt Davies

12-16-2007 21:06:47




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
My friend bought a 40 footer and brought it over to my place to store his stuff. Its not bad looking out by the barn it was painted gray and the inside is all wood and looks great. They are strong but you have to leave someone outside to cloase an lock it. BUMMER
He paid about $3500 delivered with extra door on the side.
I would like to put two together side by side for a shop.
Walt



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mark

12-16-2007 19:03:28




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
Well, if you do get one, I hope you bury it. I wouldn't have one those ugly assed things on my place. Especially if it has HANYANG painted down the sides. ICK!



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RobMD

12-16-2007 21:31:56




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to mark, 12-16-2007 19:03:28  
That's why they make paint. I painted one once the same color as a man's barn, and it looked great.



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504-2

12-16-2007 18:25:32




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
North MO 1000.00 to 1500.00, guy down the road rents them for 85.00 month delivered.



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Jim in Ma.

12-16-2007 17:52:30




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Old Iron, 12-16-2007 17:38:59  
well, they are pretty strong that just may work for ya.
here in Ma. they run about 2 grand plus delivery
I have one for storage and that works for me.
I got mine about 20 years ago = only $200 back then.



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Mark - IN.

12-16-2007 19:17:14




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 Re: Shipping containers? in reply to Jim in Ma., 12-16-2007 17:52:30  
Had you known back then what you know now, could"ve invested heavily in probably be a multi-millionaire. I don"t know what they go for in Illinois where I work, but see ads for them all of the time, and even see them cleaned up and modified for temp office spaces, consession stands, and... They exist and someone figured out a nitch for them, and that aint a bad thing. Good for them.



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