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wsmm66

12-14-2007 13:07:15

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What do you gentlemen, and ladies use to weight your rear tractor tires? My tires were weighted with calcium chloride, but I had to replace one along with the rim. Am loooking at what else I can use, that won't cause an arm an a leg to use. Also need someting non posinous incase I get a leak as I have animals. What about using the slat used for water softners Would that work? I live in Mid Michigan and this is for a 2 N. My front tires are tubless, any idea of what to weight them with? Do any of you weight your front tires?

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Bill

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Nebraska K

12-16-2007 20:23:31

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

I have heard of using peanut oil. It wont freeze and is just as heavy as chloride. It is also non-corrosive. I have no idea on cost though.

Nebraska K

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Steven f/AZ

12-16-2007 16:28:02

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

I just don't understand the people that have all the trouble with CaCl... we have 5 tractors with it in the inside rear tires and on average I would say maybe once every two years we have the truck out to repair a leak.

And as to the comment about the "just fix the leak" being in the aviation or nuclear industry... well, I've had to wait a couple of times on planes so they could fix the leak, my wife ended up with an emergency landing so they could fix the leak... and how many times has the space shuttle launch been delayed to fix the leaks??

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Bubby

12-16-2007 15:31:27

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

How do you change a valve stem on a tractor in "30 seconds"? Personally I think it is one of those "pain in the butt" jobs. Especially on tire that has been mounted for a number of years. Are you talking about the valve core, or do you mean patching on a new stem? Mabey you are using something I am not aware of.

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Don-Wi

12-14-2007 23:41:27

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

CaCl is still the best in my book and I will always choose that over the other weights, unless I need more weight on top of the fluid.

It has been said time and time again, as long as the tube isn't leaking there is no problem. Tne problem is when the valve stem starts to leak and the owner never takes care of it. It's only a $5 valve stem that can be replaced in a matter of 30 seconds. If we're in the nieghborhood of the shop that does our rear tractor tires, we can stop by and they'll give us a used stem that's still good free of charge.

For the fronts, yes cast iron is probably the best way to go. I would suggest putting a tube in the fvornt tires though. Not because of the dangers of the rims or anything, but because 9 times out of 10 the front tires will pop off the bead if they're tubeless, and it's always on a Saturday afternoon when the tire shop is closed.

If you add cast weights to the front end the likelyhood of that happening will go up for sure.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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BarryfromIA

12-14-2007 18:27:27

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

I have a 1959 case 210b that is now on its 3rd new rim on one side because the previous owners did not take care of fluid leakage when they should have. This may be a worst case scenario. But that is a 24 year average life if you take that route.

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buickanddeere

12-14-2007 17:32:29

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

Dry cast iron, windshield washer fluid or beet pulp. Those people who choose salt water solutions. Would be fired for using their " just fix the leak" rational if they were in the aviation or nuclear industry.

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Steven f/AZ

12-14-2007 17:20:25

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

The only rims that rust due to Calcium Chloride in them are the ones with owners who DO NOT FIX LEAKS! If you have a leak, fix it and rinse the rim off.

1968 IH 1256 chloride since new, rims looked like new when we put new tires on a few years back.

1969 IH 544 chloride since new, rims like new a couple years back.

1979 IH 1086 chloride since new, one rim split but had absolutely no rust, other looks like new.

If 40 years and rims looking like new isn't good enough, I don't know what is. Calcium chloride is the most cost-effect method of ballasting a tractor, and will continue to be for years to come.

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iowa_tire_guy

12-14-2007 16:35:05

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

Rimguard is what you are looking for. Look at Link and you can call for a dealer. The problem with softener salt is that it is Sodium Chloride which is pretty much the same thing as calcium chloride. Wouldn't gain anything. What would washer fluid that is strong enough to stay fluid in mid Michigan in the winter cost?

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riverbend

12-14-2007 15:53:20

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

I had CaCl in the rear tires on my H, but it would eat the valve stem in a couple years. After changing a few loaded tubes, I went with cast iron.

Greg

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landlord7012

12-14-2007 15:42:20

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

Would a set of pie weights work on the 2N? That way center of gravity wouldn't be an issue.

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MF Poor

12-14-2007 14:16:22

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

It took 60 years (+ or -) to rust out your 2N's rim with cal cl. Unless you plan on living forever, another 60 aughtta do the trick.

Windshield washer fluid is OK

Rim Gaurd (beet juice) is Ok but costly compared to the other options.

Not sure how well solar salt/softener salt would dissolve in concentration.

Cast weights have their plus's. (No leaks) Negatives are they're usually expensive, they can come loose. They don't offer the lower center of gravity advantages of fluid in the tires.

Yes you can put fluid in fronts. If your tubeless tires/wheels don't leak air, they'll hold fluid just fine. I prefer tubes. (especially with cal cl)

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Midwest redneck

12-14-2007 14:04:14

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

There is a product called rim guard, made in Michigan if I remember right is a by product of beet juice, doesnt freeze or rot the rims. I forgot the cost I think double the cost of wiper fluid.

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old

12-14-2007 14:00:45

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to wsmm66, 12-14-2007 13:07:15

Wind shield wiper fluid works well and doesn't cost all that much to use. Not on to the front tires. You say there tube less, if you run stock rims your in for trouble doing that because the rims are not made to be used that way and can be very unsafe to use that way.

Hobby farm

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massey333

12-14-2007 14:08:54

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to old, 12-14-2007 14:00:45

Old,willyou please explain that old wifes tale about why the rims are unsafe for tubeless tires??

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old

12-14-2007 14:18:03

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to massey333, 12-14-2007 14:08:54

Not a wives tale. If you look at a rim made for a tube they are differant then ones made to be used tubeless. The tube type are made in ways that used tubeless can make the split or bend because of how the tire sits on them. Also a lot of the tube type are rivoted togeather and the rivots don't hole air. Back years ago tire companys warned about mounting the new type tubeless tires on rims made for tube type and the problems they had with liabilty for being unsafe. Of course that was put out way back when, when I worked at a gas station in the summer

Hobby farm

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massey333

12-14-2007 15:19:51

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to old, 12-14-2007 14:18:03

Your comfused on the issue of the two types.The issue you are talking of is the .5 and .1 sizing which have a different bead angle and OD which can cause the tire to blow off a standard size rim.A standard size rim(15-16-24-28-30 or whatever size) has the same rim lip or size whether it is tube or tubeless.The rivets can be a problem on holding air if not sealed over.We were running Tubeless Ag.test tires 50 yrs.ago on regular rims with Good Years blessings.25-30 years ago there was a issue with some truck rims not being strong enough for Radial tires.

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old

12-14-2007 17:42:28

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Re: Weighting Rear Tractor Tires in reply to massey333, 12-14-2007 15:19:51

Funny how if you look at the side wall of a tire it has a statemnet about the rim and all. Either way You believe what you want and I'll believe like I do and still never run a tube less tire on a tube type rim. The 2 rims are in fact different

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