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I thought some people would get a kick out of this.

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12-06-2007 21:28:18




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Some people have nothing better to do than complain and not accept responsibility. This storm dumped about 6" of snow along with about 8 hours of freezing rain and sleet. It was one of the nastier storms I've seen in awhile.

MADISON, Wis. -- As Madison prepares to dig out from under more snow, some are calling for a better plan of action when it comes to city plowing.


Three Madison Common Council members are calling for action after receiving complaints from downtown residents. Marsha Rummel, Brenda Konkel and Satya Rhodes-Conway said they want some stricter guidelines to ensure city plows can clear a path on all streets.

Tom Powell said he was just trying to drive home Thursday when his car got stuck in snow on Paterson Street on the isthmus.

"I was trying to go up a hill, and the snow plow hills are just too high, and I slid back and ended up being buried right in one," Powell said. "(While) digging myself out, I saw five other people get stuck, so it's a pretty dangerous little hill."

With a push and some time, Powell was able to dislodge his car, but he said he hasn't been pleased with the condition of roads.

"I have not been impressed with the plow jobs in general -- on this street and or a number of other streets," he said,

While that street might be an extreme case, city leaders have been getting complaints and said they are taking notice.

"The downtown has some special problems. The main one is that we have a lot of folks who don't have off-street parking, so, they park on the streets. When the snow falls, they don't move their cars and then that creates a real problem for us in terms of cleaning up after a storm," said Madison Mayor Dave Cieslewicz. "We do need to look for ways to address that issue."

Rummel, an alder for District 6, said she has been taking suggestions and noting ideas.

"One of the ideas was to have a 'Snow Action Day' sort of similar to the summer when we have a 'Clean Air Action Day' when there is too much pollution. How can we make people aware that there is an issue to get off the streets? The ramps are available for people who live close to the downtown; maybe we can work something out with Metro?" Rummel said.

Free Metro bus rides and extended hours for free parking at public ramps are just some ideas. Another idea is raising fines for parked cars that block plows, which could save drivers like Powell big headaches.

"I was here a good 20 minutes, digging away," Powell said.

Rummel said she is still taking suggestions and that no formal proposal has been made yet.

Cieslewicz said he thinks many of the suggestions already made are worth trying to explore.

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Bill(Wis)

12-07-2007 14:26:21




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
Those Moscovites in Madison just love european methods. In some towns in Europe (Austria?)each able bodied resident reports to the city hall where s/he is issued a snowshovel.



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JT

12-07-2007 11:38:18




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
As far as I am concerned, most of these type of people are just plain stupid. My dad was a county road commissioner for 20 years. You would be amazed at the number of people who would get stuck trying to go to town in the middle of a blizzard. their comment was,"I did not think it would be this bad" come on, there is a winter storm warning listed, with blowing and drifting snow, and you did not think would be bad??? Most of these people we did not know, they had moved from the city. My dad told one moron who was raising he$$ because he could not get through to go to town to run for the job next time was up for election. My dad retired and appointed someone to take the job. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out, if the roads are bad, STAY HOME!!! Then he would get the I have to get cigarettes, or groceries, most people are not winter ready. Drives me crazy listening to people grumble, but they are not part of the solution, they are the problem!!

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paul

12-07-2007 08:25:04




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
On the other hand, in Minnesota they put up sdolar powered flashing lights on all the state highway intersections, and just turn on the lights if the snow gets bad. Road closed, you get fined for going around the lights.

Only in the rural areas, of course. In Twin Cities metro area, bragged how the roads have never been shut in 28 years.....

And they wonder why there are tax wars.....

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paul

12-07-2007 08:25:00




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
On the other hand, in Minnesota they put up sdolar powered flashing lights on all the state highway intersections, and just turn on the lights if the snow gets bad. Road closed, you get fined for going around the lights.

Only in the rural areas, of course. In Twin Cities metro area, bragged how the roads have never been shut in 28 years.....

And they wonder why there are tax wars.....

--->Paul

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JML755

12-07-2007 07:43:48




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
e

You're absolutely right about people who only know how to complain. When I was on our Homeowners Board, I had people complaining about the lousy job that our hired snow plow drivers were doing. I drove around to find people up and down the streets snowblowing/shoveling snow from their driveways INTO THE STREET THAT WAS JUST PLOWED!! No wonder it was a mess. When I stopped to ask them not to do that, they got real indignant! When one complainer called back, I told them to go talk to their neighbors.

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rrlund

12-07-2007 06:46:35




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
Hasn't that commie berg heard of odd-even parking in the winter? Geez,I thought those Stalinists were the smartest people in the world!



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RN

12-07-2007 13:20:05




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to rrlund, 12-07-2007 06:46:35  
They do have odd/even parking. Big problem the article barely mentioned is the lack of off street parking in Isthmus area, narrow streets, multiple residency converted housing-student area- and lack of smaller plows and manpower. Willmette, Illinios had a couple people contracted for sidewalk and alley, narrow street/driveway plowing that used old CJ3 and CJ5 jeeps with 4 foot and 4.5 foot plows, they could clean tight places pretty good. One guy had 20 of the old CJ3s and a dozen plows- Jeep breaks down just switch plow and fix jeep later, about end of April he would stop by the Jeep dealer- old Kaiser dealer- and give me parts list for needed repairs to get ready for next winter. New AMC/Jeep dealers didn't have old manuals or alternate suppliers so couldn't help him quick. Another snow clearing help was drunk drivers working off community service requirement, neigbor ended up being told to join sidewalk and drive cleaning crew a few times after second stop. RN

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Leland

12-06-2007 21:32:28




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 Re: I thought some people would get a kick out of this. in reply to e, 12-06-2007 21:28:18  
I hope the roads are not like that if the UW gives me a call for a kidney panc transplant ,it's already a 4 hour drive on a good day .



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