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OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store

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Formerly PaMike

12-03-2007 16:42:03




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I need your guys opinions. I have a pickup load of factory repair manuals I want to sell on ebay. I see a lot of people that sell on ebay have the "ebay stores". I personally have bought a lot on ebays auctions, but never in the stores. Do you guys think its worth making a store to sell them in, or throw them on the auction and see what I get? Some of the manuals are newer agco, and would be very valuable to some people. I am afraid that if I put them on a short ebay auction they wont get the exposure to generate much interest. Opinions?

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motorv8N

12-04-2007 09:06:58




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
I like Paypal too and I've used it 99 percent of the time when buying. The one time I had to do a money order it was a PITA and cost me money. I really wanted the item, however, and it wasn't an amount I would cry too hard over if I got burned so I did it.

The only thing I won't do is maintain a balance in Paypal's account system. Payments are transferred directly from my bank.
Reason is I've known of a few people getting sucked into ebay disputes and having their paypal account frozen. Doesn't matter if you have hundreds or thousands in there and the dispute is on a ten dollar item -- it all gets frozen til someone takes their sweet time getting to the bottom of it and you can't get your own money out. No thanks.

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JT

12-04-2007 12:26:50




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to motorv8N, 12-04-2007 09:06:58  
Used to have an Ebay store, most months the fees were more than the sales, other months I would make a little money, but for every item you list on an Ebay store, there is someone listing the same thing in an Ebay store for less than you do. Paypal, Yea I use it to buy, but would not to sell, they give you about as much security as an open barn door. I had a person buy a carb kit from me, it was 6.95 plus 2.00 shipping. I had it listed as no insurance unless you wanted to buy it, he declined the insurance, I mailed it out, I know the fool got it, but he whined to Paypal, and they refunded 100% of his money, I guess if he is that hard up to rip someone off for 9.00 he can have it. That is the biggest drawback to Paypal in my point of view.
Jim

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mmguy23119

12-04-2007 06:30:20




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
I don't know why so many are afraid of Paypal. I think it is great. As a buyer I just hit pay now and it's done. Doesn't cost a penny, no trip to town,no postage, no MO fee,ZIP! As a seller I also love it. It costs around 3% I think but that is cheap for guaranteed funds in your account immediatly.They pay you money market for funds in your account, and will transfer that to your bank account by request at no fee. I go on by a lot of auctions that don't except Paypal. I would list items separatly rather than the store.

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Steven f/AZ

12-04-2007 05:57:13




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Allan In NE, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  

Davis In SC said: (quoted from post at 20:53:52 12/03/07) >>> I agree 100% with Doug.. It is not worth a 5 mile drive & 90 cent MO fee, to buy a 10 dollar item...


That's why you should use PayPal - no drive, no fee for the buyer, and if things don't work out, you have recourse.

I suppose if a buyer emailed me wanting to use a personal check, I would accept it for something under $50 - but I would hold the item for at least ten business days to be sure the check clears.

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Walt Davies

12-03-2007 19:26:32




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
Unless they are factory service manuals they ain't worth the time to send money to get one. I have worked for years and used all kinds but only the factory service manuals were worth the effort to take a look at them.My opinion
Walt



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motorv8N

12-03-2007 19:25:22




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
My wife has an ebay store for selling kids clothes. Far as I can tell it's a waste of money. Sure, every once in a while she'll sell a cute little outfit for eight bucks but there's ebay every month taking sixteen...

Also, pyshologically I think there is less incentive to buy stuff that's just sitting around in a store. It's the auctions that excite people and get them to spend. Of course it takes time to set up every auction I guess.

I second Steve's advice about auction end times. I've bailed on a couple of items just becuase they have end times where I'm at work or in transit or something. Pretty well anyone can get to their computer after dinner on Sunday though.

All in all -- I'd start by advertising them here.

(This advice will cost you one Ferguson TEA20 book if you got it third party image )

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Nebraska Cowman

12-03-2007 18:26:44




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
I have a bunch in my ebay store. Every once in a while one sells. But not enough to pay for the store. So, no, It's probably not worth it to make a store just for them. But if you had other items to go along with them it could work. And I find it helps to have auctions running too as then buyers find the store items better. I am probaly not making a dime on a box full of manuals but I am getting them into the hands of guys that need them and it helps pay for a store that I had anyway.

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Steven f/AZ

12-03-2007 17:52:22




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
Here's my advice if you are going to list on eBay:

1. Make sure the auction(s) end on Sunday evening - most people have time to be looking on the weekends, especially Sunday evening and that way you can have at least a couple of people bidding in the last minutes.

2. Make sure the auction runs at least 7 days. Some weeks I only have time to search for an item once a week, listing a full week makes sure that no matter what day a person has off, it should show up in their search.

3. Use reasonable shipping charges - overcharging for shipping is dishonest, and I find by being reasonable (sometimes under true cost) will cause more people to be interested/bid on your item.

4. Lots of pictures.

5. Detailed description of what's included.

6. Accept PayPal - the fee really isn't that bad.

7. I don't accept personal checks any more - anyone who is too lazy or unable to get a cashier's check or money order can't be interested in my items.

That's what I advise based on my eBay experiences.

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Doug in IL

12-03-2007 19:26:18




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Steven f/AZ, 12-03-2007 17:52:22  
As a buyer, I don't use PayPal. Never have, and don't intend to. No specific reason why I don't use it, just don't. As to the personal checks. If I see an auction that interests me, the first thing I check is the payment methods accepted. If a personal check is accepted, I'll probably bid the auction. If a money order is accepted, I may bid the auction. If PayPal only is indicated, I'll not look at the auction any further. As a buyer, the check is basically cost free to me. A money order cost me the price of the money order service fee, plus a gallon of gasoline, wear and tear on my vehicle, and 20 to 30 minutes of my time to drive to town and back to get it. Don't know why I should incur these additional costs to bid an auction if I don't have to. Just this buyer's opinion.

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maplehillfrm,pat

12-04-2007 18:37:33




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Doug in IL, 12-03-2007 19:26:18  
now see I am the opposite, I will turn away from a auction that doesnt accept paypal, Its just so convenient to just hit the pay now button m you know its paid right now,, I dont have to waste my time and go to town for a MO, or go to the post office nad mail a check or mo,, that takes a few days to get there,,then sometimes wait another 10 days to clear,,

I buy and sell with paypal, I wouldnt have it any other way it is convenient,, just my 2 cents, as a seller I also use the shipping through paypal for the USPS,, and get free confirmation as well, and pay for ups shipments via paypal, as well.. I guess to each his own,,

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Nebraska Cowman

12-04-2007 03:32:31




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Doug in IL, 12-03-2007 19:26:18  
That's why I accept ALL methods of payment. And yes, some people WANT to use paypal.



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mike in new mexico

12-04-2007 06:26:35




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-04-2007 03:32:31  
I have bought on ebay for the last 6 or 7 years, I have paypal but I always like to pay with postal money orders- that is until I got burned this summer, seller burned a lot of us, the post office didn"t want to get involved. ebay pulled the seller"s account but me and a lot others lost our money.(the seller didn"t accept paypal) I will no longer even look at an auction unless the seller takes paypal.mike

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Davis In SC

12-03-2007 19:53:52




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Doug in IL, 12-03-2007 19:26:18  
>>> I agree 100% with Doug.. It is not worth a 5 mile drive & 90 cent MO fee, to buy a 10 dollar item...



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RustyFarmall

12-03-2007 17:14:27




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
The ebay store will cost you $16 per month. Depending on the price of the manual, there will be an additional 5 cents or 10 cents per item listing fee, plus another penny per item to have a picture of the manual in the gallery. In addition to that, there will be a final value fee of between 5 to 10% per item assesed when a manual sells, and then if you use paypal, they will harvest another 5%. Unless you have some extremely rare and valuable manuals, you would be money ahead to just burn them. I'd list them a few at a time right here on YT, and maybe a few on craigs list.

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steve from mo - dangit!

12-03-2007 16:51:43




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 Re: OT- Ebay auction vs. Ebay Store in reply to Formerly PaMike, 12-03-2007 16:42:03  
You might email Kim about setting up a store on this site and see how that might work. That might work better.

Stuff listed on eBay shows up on search engine inquiries. Someone either needs a particular manual or they don't and if they need one they will be searching for it. So - if you have the manual they need listed on eBay, they might contact you. I don't think the longer-term exposure from an eBay store would increase your chances of selling those manuals. You can set a longer sale time with a regular listing.

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