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NEsota

11-29-2007 17:11:46




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Ethanol, move over. There ought to be a better way to produce energy than corn based ethanol.




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Steven f/AZ

11-30-2007 16:11:57




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
Ethanal takes too much energy to produce and has lower BTU content. Algae biodiesel has high BTU value and burns clean, takes less input to produce, etc. etc.

Maybe the Apples (corn) need to be compared to Oranges (biodiesel). Whichever is cheaper/easier should be more widespread.



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JMS/.MN

11-30-2007 13:43:51




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
Comparing apples to oranges. Ethanol replaces gasoline. This is talking about making biodiesel from algae. Ethanol is still a viable renewable product, and no one has to die for it.



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David Snipes

11-30-2007 09:50:08




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
America has such an obesity problem, we should offer free liposuction to collect all that fat and burn it for fuel.



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Steven f/AZ

11-30-2007 07:18:07




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
Biodiesel from algae is what I think might catch on...

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730virgil

11-29-2007 18:05:54




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
i think the usa needs to tell the environmental crackpots to go suck lemons and do something about use of imported oil. the exporters don't do our country any favors why do we continue to send our money to them? i remember hearing 30? years ago there are were dams on waterways in the north east to supply the region with electric power. but fear of some mouse ,snail or fish losing their home the power plants can't be used.

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kyplowboy

11-29-2007 17:36:21




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
Like Dan said, I like the methane from waist. Was stay"n up late on night last week, so I could work 12 hours the next night, and PBS was the best thing on TV. Had a show about some poor country, I think it was Bangladesh (sp?). They peole there had thier whole house roof covered with solar panals and shoveled poltry litter into big piles and pumped out the methane. I thought is was kinda cool, these people did not have a pot to p in and were make"n do with what they had. How high is the cost of energy going to have to get before we start doing these things here?

Dave

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Bob

11-29-2007 17:44:24




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 Methane from WAIST??? in reply to kyplowboy, 11-29-2007 17:36:21  
Where do you get that... from a "fat farm"?



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kyplowboy

11-29-2007 17:52:31




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 Re: Methane from WAIST??? in reply to Bob, 11-29-2007 17:44:24  
Get what, I don't understand your question. Parden my ignorance, please exlain it a little more.

Dave



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Eduardoo

11-29-2007 17:55:29




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 Re: Methane from WAIST??? in reply to kyplowboy, 11-29-2007 17:52:31  
He's just being a dick because you wrote "waist" instead of "waste.
Little men= little thoughts, you know.

Maybe he is upset because his name is a palendrom.



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Bob

11-29-2007 18:00:19




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 That would be Palindrome in reply to Eduardoo, 11-29-2007 17:55:29  
That would be "Palindrome", if you want to be picky!



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Eduardoo

11-29-2007 18:02:45




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 Re: That would be Palindrome in reply to Bob, 11-29-2007 18:00:19  
"That would be "Palindrome", if you want to be picky!"

I don't.



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in-too-deep

11-29-2007 17:59:38




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 Re: Methane from WAIST??? in reply to Eduardoo, 11-29-2007 17:55:29  
We don't like flaming around here, even if it is just sarcastic remarks.



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kyplowboy

11-29-2007 17:53:56




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 never mind in reply to kyplowboy, 11-29-2007 17:52:31  
I got it after I posted it, I know I can't spell, thanks for reminding me.



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Dan-IA

11-29-2007 17:28:45




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to NEsota, 11-29-2007 17:11:46  
I'm personally a fan of covering the manure ponds near cattle lots and city water treatment plants, capturing the methane, and burning it in an LP-gas engine tied to a generator. Smells better, and is productive too!

And something called an "earth battery" which is a zinc rod (a common bolt) in the dirt packed inside a copper pipe, all driven into the ground like a ground rod.

And the tesla version of a solar cell: an insulated metal plate way on top of the tallest structure you have, like a lightning rod. And similarly grounded, but with a capacitor and spark gap inline. Supposedly it works like a battery charger. Bigger the insulated plate and the higher it is, the better.

(Hey, crackpot science is my hobby!)

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Davis In SC

11-29-2007 21:51:30




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to Dan-IA, 11-29-2007 17:28:45  
The BMW plant here generates much of there power from methane piped in from Mt.Trashmore, the huge 3 state garbage dump were have.. If the dump gets any taller, it will stay capped with snow all year..



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Bob Kerr

11-29-2007 21:35:08




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to Dan-IA, 11-29-2007 17:28:45  
Years ago I heard something about a Westinghouse or GE experiment involing a big lightning rod tower and a HUGE capacitor the size of a large building. They hoped the capacitor would store the energy from lightning strikes. The building that housed the capacitor was destroyed when the capacitor exploded from the first strike that it took.



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Mike (WA)

11-30-2007 08:13:56




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to Bob Kerr, 11-29-2007 21:35:08  
As my college Physics prof said when the gyroscope he was balancing crashed to the floor and broke, "Well, that's research."



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Mattlt

11-30-2007 06:04:17




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 Re: O.T. Energy Source in reply to Bob Kerr, 11-29-2007 21:35:08  
Back to the drawing board...



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