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Get it running or Scrap it ????????

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topglock45

11-28-2007 17:15:33




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I bought a 1966 Case 580ck Backhoe for $4,800.00. I recently found out it has a hole in a piston and the other cylinders only have around 100 pounds of pressure. My local dealer states I am probably looking at another $4,000 to get it back in shape. Does anybody have any idea's ??
Should I keep it and spent more money or sell it or scrap it ?????[color=blue:663e933451][/color:663e933451]




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sbin

11-29-2007 06:45:48




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
Here is a link for 188 rebuild kits $600.



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sbin

11-29-2007 06:52:55




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to sbin, 11-29-2007 06:45:48  
Here is another link for Case backhoe parts.
I have been slowly going thru a 580C with extendahoe.Lots of odds and ends to deal with on old machines but parts are plentiful and inexpensive.Once the bushings are tightened up,leaks fixed and running right those old Case machines get the job done!

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topglock45

11-29-2007 06:09:52




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to buickanddeere, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
THEY SHOWED ME THE PISTON- THEY SAID IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE THE FUEL INJECTOR MIGHT HAVE BURN A HOLE IN IT...



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topglock45

11-29-2007 05:56:07




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to TGIN, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
IT'S A DIESEL I THINK 188...



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topglock45

11-29-2007 05:54:23




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to Bob Kerr, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
They told me they have to take the whole front off ( enloader ) and
that's where most of the labor is..... I saw the kits for $643
They told me that the compression should have been around 200 instead of 100 pounds of pressure



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Glenn F.

11-29-2007 06:00:05




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
Would you give me directions to your house. I'll be right over with my trailer.

Glenn F.



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topglock45

11-29-2007 05:40:10




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to Dave from MN, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
IT'S A DIESEL 188



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DaveS

11-29-2007 03:43:18




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
at 100 pounds of compression, you can safely bet it is a gas. A diesel needs more compression than that to run.



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gene bender

11-29-2007 01:19:24




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
So why dont you just replace the piston with the hole and run it. Later if you can make some money with it then you could trade up or replace engine.



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the tractor vet

11-28-2007 21:32:21




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
Thats BULL IF ya have a 500 dollar craftman tool set and a BOOK you can fix it for a bunch less . Look around for the parts ya need and get prices from everybody . next find a good old fashioned Machine shop for the stuff ya can not diy . I have seen this happen to many folks on the bargain of the year only to find out that is a nighmare of the year . A little time a few bucks you can have it up and running , but the down side is that you will never get back what ya put into it . Only the use . I have seen this way to many times on construction equipment way more then on the ag equipment . Years back i fixed a 580 B for a guy that got raked over the coals and if he had just taken someone that knew equipment with him to loook at it first before writing the check he would have been 10000 dollars to the good . If he had knowen that i know people that sell this stuff and they are people that you can trust he could have bought the same machine for 2000 lees that would have worked.

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John Cooney

11-28-2007 20:43:54




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
If you are going to scrap it please let me know.I have a friend looking for such a machine.However it seems to me that you would make a mistake to junk this machine.Phone #281 857 9576.



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Marlowe

11-28-2007 19:02:21




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
one more thing is it gas or diesel and how do you know it has a hole in the piston?



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Lanse

11-28-2007 18:48:11




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
id keep it, but if you decide to sell it for scrap, let me know..... ..... ..uh, well, accually, thats ok



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Marlowe

11-28-2007 18:33:54




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
your dealer is nuts. that is a real easy engine to rebuild only thing to watch for is they used about four types of heads and some can be pricey but other then that parts are kind of cheep for them just a fun engine to rebuild. it more then likely will be a 188



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in-too-deep

11-28-2007 18:00:11




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
Keep it.



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rwp

11-28-2007 17:32:06




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 Re: Get it running or Scrap it ???????? in reply to topglock45, 11-28-2007 17:15:33  
IF You Have the G207D Diesel, the kit cost $634.95
It's definitely a fixer-upper and not a scrapper. Most engine shops will charge you $500 for cleaning and assemble. Check around, get more estimates. That kit is available on Yesterday's Classic Tractor.



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