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How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring)

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11-28-2007 14:19:53

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Ugh. I've had to fight these Eaton retaining rings before, and this is one that just won't give up. It's about 5" in diameter and 3/16" thick.

What type of tool is used to get these things out? I've searched and searched with no luck. There HAS to be some way of servicing them. Let me know if you know who makes such a tool.

Thanks!

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Kevin Meier

11-28-2007 18:44:15

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

drill an 1/8" hole at both ends of the snap ring and use a regular old snap ring pliers

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Hillcrest

11-28-2007 18:23:44

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

DIY Dave has the answer. I have a set of internal snap ring tools that are about like he describes. The correct one is wide enough to fill the gap between the 2 ends of the snap ring and a twist on the tool pulls 1 end of the snap ring out far enough to get something behind it and pry out. It takes a little doing but it will work

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Janicholson

11-28-2007 17:58:46

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Take a three inch common door henge. Grind enough off of each side so that when it is placed in the gap between the tips it is about 1/4 inch wider when the henge is flat. Bend the henge on its pin so it is narrower then use two adjustable wrenches (one on each side of the henge) to flatten the henge. this will expand and lift the ends of the ring enough to get it out. Weld handles on each side of the henge and sell it to your dealers mechanic. JimN

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Rickey h

11-28-2007 17:48:54

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Heat it half inch from each end and bent a 90 on each end and then you can pull it together Rickey

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nhboyd

11-28-2007 17:25:15

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

if all the above ideas don't work, heat the snapring to take the tension out of it and buy a new one.

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Davis In SC

11-28-2007 17:15:53

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

However you do it, a pair of safety glasses is needed. I have had snaprings to just jump out with a lot of force. I think the most painful injury I ever had was from a ring like that. I was trying to assemble a clutchpack, and the ring poked all the way under my thumbnail... Took a year to heal back..

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marlowe

11-28-2007 18:37:40

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to Davis In SC, 11-28-2007 17:15:53

you got that right friend stabbed himself in the eye with screw driver working on one of the

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DiyDave

11-28-2007 17:10:10

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Your answer is on the stuck and troubled picture. Basically the answer involves taking a piece of flat stock, grind a round edge to the back side, to match the diameter of the hub, then grind down the edges of this prybar to match the angled surfaces of the snap ring. Make it fit as tight as you can, then pry against both ears, till you can get an itty bitty screwdriver in one side, then work it around. Good luck!

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Walt Davies

11-28-2007 16:50:25

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Take a small 3/16 or less screw driver and grind it to a sharp edge then drive it in between the two edges. Us another screw driver to work it out. Then take a small grinder and grind a small flat spot on the out edge of the grove for next time.
Walt

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johnski

11-28-2007 15:46:01

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

I've had some luck on those tough ones by clamping a needle nose vise grips in the housing and letting one end go up against it so I can put some muscle on the other end without it spinning in the bore. Grind a nice fresh edge on your "prybar" and sometimes a little valve lapping compound for some extra grip helps. HTH Jf

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ScottyHOMEy

11-28-2007 15:04:24

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Attitude?

Is it spinning on you, keepin you fropm gettin' behind it? Isf so, do you have a pair of snap ring pliers big enough to get behind the two ends to hold it and nudge it out to where you can get a blade under it to walk it out?

Lacking the pliers, how about a second pair of hands?

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11-28-2007 15:19:24

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 11-28-2007 15:04:24

I can get it to spin if I want, but this one is much thicker than other ones of this size that I've encountered. It's just taking a tremendous amount of force just to get it to move inward slightly. It is precision ground so I can't replace it with a standard off the shelf version. It might come down to destroying it and buying a new one from Agco. Hopefully they still carry them!

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Larry from Maryland

11-28-2007 16:09:40

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 15:19:24

I know which one you are talking about and the only way i could get it out was to weld a piece of metal to it and then breaking it out. A new one is expencive, but the meckanics said it was the only way out.

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Gene Dotson

11-28-2007 14:57:58

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

IF you have a replacement snap ring and IF nothing else works, you can heat it in a couple of places with a torch and relieve the tension and then pry it out... Gene

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Allan In NE

11-28-2007 14:31:09

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:19:53

Dunno,

I just use two small screw drivers and work on just one leg.

A "twisting" action with one under the slant and using the other screw driver to get behind the leg, walking it around and out of it's groove.

Allan

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11-28-2007 14:47:52

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to Allan In NE, 11-28-2007 14:31:09

Ya, that's what I usually do too. This one, however, has an a-t-t-i-t-u-d-e :)

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Allan In NE

11-28-2007 14:51:22

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Re: How do you get one of these buggers out (retaining ring) in reply to e, 11-28-2007 14:47:52

Have you taken a small diameter punch and tapped it down all the way around to try to "loosen" it/"shake" it loose in it's groove?

Good luck. I can feel the cuss marks. :>)

Allan

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