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Running new Hydraulic hoses

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RobMD

11-22-2007 08:53:22

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When running new hydraulic hoses, do you guys put two swivels on both ends or just one on one end?

Just wanted to know because I had a JD 48 loader hose blow out on me with a bucket of dirt. Scary experience. Need to replace all the hoses on it as they are from many other color implements from years of being too cheap (not me!).

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wilsonfire

11-24-2007 16:35:05

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

Do you put anything on the connection before reattaching? Does this help or hurt leaking?

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RodInNS

11-23-2007 08:38:22

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

I generally use two swivels unless the hose is very short or very easy to install. There are situations where two swivels are required as well...
I avoid JIC fittings if at all possible. Those have got to be the KING of leakers. I can't say that I've ever had a problem with pipe fittings leaking if the were installed properly. The JIC will leak and leak... and you keep tightening them, they still leak until you tighten them enough to strip the threads. Then you start over with a new adapter and another hose... I get rid of those things every chance I get.

Rod

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Richard L

11-22-2007 17:51:51

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

RobMD I'll bet you are sure glad it was a bucket of dirt rather than kids riding in the bucket.

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RobMD

11-22-2007 18:11:23

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to Richard L, 11-22-2007 17:51:51

I was in the bucket a day before cleaning the gutters out.

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El Toro

11-22-2007 14:28:55

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

If you're near Kunkle auto parts store they can make new hoses. I would go with swivel nuts on both ends. Here's a picture of a hydraulic hose with 90 degree elbows and JIC flared fittings that I made up from Aeroquip hose and fittings for a spare on my garden tractor. Hal

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shannon from ohio

11-22-2007 18:53:57

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to El Toro, 11-22-2007 14:28:55

Yes! The JIC fitting is the only way to go for me??

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markct

11-22-2007 09:51:44

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

i preffer using a jic flare fitting and adapter to using a swivel, the swivels often leak after constant vibration, and since the jic fittings are one of the most common fittings in the construction industry they are about the cheapest and most readily available.

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paul

11-22-2007 11:00:22

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to markct, 11-22-2007 09:51:44

Yea, the swivels like to leak, if you need 2, the flair fitting is way better imho.

--->Paul

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JMS/.MN

11-22-2007 09:38:38

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

You need only one, regardless of length. Put the fixed end in place first, route the hose, tighten down the swivel end.

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Steven f/AZ

11-22-2007 09:19:58

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

You can buy the add-on swivels cheaper than you can have swivels put on the hose ends...

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135 Fan

11-22-2007 11:43:57

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to Steven f/AZ, 11-22-2007 09:19:58

You don't want to have a bunch of unnecessary fittings. The more fittings the more heat and potential leaks. New swivels if tightened properly rarely leak. It does depend on hose routing. Dave

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Don-Wi

11-22-2007 09:00:31

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

Depends on the situation and routing like Allan says. If it's short or don't have to go around much or through the frame, 1 swivel is fine. Otherwise, go with 2. Them joints are pretty expensive too....Makes a $10 hose cost $50 if you put on on each end.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Allan In NE

11-22-2007 08:56:31

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Re: Running new Hydraulic hoses in reply to RobMD, 11-22-2007 08:53:22

Depends on the layout of the hose.

I usually just use one if it is a short straight-ahead bugger.

The longer, mass-complicated, knotted up kind I'll use two just for the ease of installment.

Allan

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