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Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal

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super99

11-03-2007 02:40:32




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I read the LONG link below. 7 years ago wife and I bought 65 acres from my 2 aunts and Mom. $65,000. Banker said I should sell it and more than double my money. I said I didn't buy it to resell, I bought it to keep, belonged to my grandparents sine 1945, wanted to keep it in the family a little longer( till I die). NOW, some of you guys are going to say I stole it. Had to borrow every penny to buy it, so how much should I go to bank to borrow to pay them what you think is a fair price. I put a new house, 50X80 shed and 2 grain bins up, do I have to pay them for the increased value that I have added to it since I bought it? Can I subtract what I owe on the improvements from the value that you say I should pay them to be FAIR? Chris

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Eric SEI

11-04-2007 18:28:27




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
$1000 per acre 7 years ago? In some parts of the country you would be the one who got the short end of the stick. Seriously, if your family gave you a good price because you are family, fine. They knew what they were doing, maybe they were just making plans to avoid probate.

Now it is a legal principle that the informed may not take serious advantage of the uninformed. If an antique dealer offers to buy an item from you for $5 that he knows is worth $500 he is breaking the law in many states. If I (who knows nothing of antiques) offers to buy it for $5 that would be legal.

Serious collectors fall in the same category as dealers. I have seen stories where a clerk accidentally undercharged a collector and the store owner was able to have the sale voided because the collector knew it was a mistake. This is like a clerk ringing up a $500 baseball card as $5.

With a tractor, who knows. Unless you actually know exactly what is wrong and what it will cost to repair it, the value is harder to set. But if you were to offer a widow $500 for a tractor that would probably sell for $10,000 you would probably be violating several laws. If someone contacts you with a deal to good to be true you are probably fine, unless the real value is several times what he is asking.

Personally, if someone offered to sell me a $5,000 tractor for $1,000 I would feel that I had to tell him it was worth a lot more than that. If he offered to sell me a $5,000 tractor for $4,000 I would figure that either it had condition problems or he didn't want to deal with selling it and would feel free to accept it.

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Clint Youse MO

11-03-2007 18:42:26




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
Form the sounds of it below I am a bonified crrok I buy Stuff as cheap as possible I do not price other peoples things if they want to sell it they should research the value my self I have bought tractors for $50 brought them home taken one part off and sold it for 50 But I was happy and the seller was happy so that was a good deal. I buy, sell and trade on my farm and hog buildings I bought them from a very good friend who I had worked for since I was 14 he priced it we negotiated and signed a contract when the appraisal came back I bout it $53000 less than the appraisal so the people on the other thread make it sound liek I should pay him the extra money sorry life does not work that away.

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Walt Davies

11-03-2007 13:14:42




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
I been stealing land all my life and never looked back to see who got hurt all I know is I made most of my wealth buying cheap and selling high. I figure if the seller was happy at the time and I was happy at the time then what's the problem.
Walt



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it really ain't dishonest

11-03-2007 09:20:20




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
IF the friend selling the tractor knew its true value and sold it to his friend for whatever price then all is well. HOWEVER, if the friend did not know the value then the buyer (friend) should have told him that it was worth more. ? is -- would the buyer have paid the same to a elderly widow woman and then bragged about the "great deal"!!



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cj in wisconsin

11-03-2007 08:39:16




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
I always say if both parties are happy it's a good deal. I bought my 720 JD from an old friend, he knew what it was worth and he sold it to me for half of that because he knew I would use it as it should be and not sell it for a profit. Needed a parts tractor for my 47 B he wouldn't take a dime for it. But if he needs a hand he knows who to call. So if anyone thinks I stuck it to him,,,,, Tough hop !!!!! sounds like a lot of sour grapes out there are jealous when a man does ok. Just my two cents...

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Spook

11-03-2007 06:03:21




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
I didn't comment on that thread because I really didn't think it was anybody's business. I have had some great deals, and been snookered on others. It's called life. I don't want to worry about that stuff. I wouldn't post it on here, but that's me. BTW - sounds like ya got a real nice farm, enjoy.



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Two Dogs

11-03-2007 03:41:20




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
Well, it would only be fair to sign it back over to them, sell your wife and children for slaves and find yourself a nice used refrigerator box and live out your miserable life under a bridge. That should satisfy some. Me? I"m happy for you. Regards, TDF



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Steven f/AZ

11-03-2007 03:37:51




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 Re: RE; Why rip a guy down for a great deal in reply to super99, 11-03-2007 02:40:32  
I recently bought a lot in town to build my house on... I bought it for about $15,000 less than comparable lots in the neighborhood. I suppose I ripped the seller off to the tune of $15k according to some of you...

Same deal with the house that is being built, times are slow in the house building business, they showed me their price and I offered much less. They accepted. Another theft?



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