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Jarod

10-15-2007 10:03:39




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Hi, we have a 1948 Farmall H we are planning to put on the market, and would like to get an idea of the asking price. If you want to get an idea of the shape the tractor's in just think about the color of an old exhaust manifold then picture the rest of the tractor being that color. It has a blade on the front, with a bucket that can go on it too. The tractors color may not shine, but the engine does. It's reliable, in fact we had trouble starting cars last winter, but the tractor would always start with the choke and a few cranks. I just did a pressure test on the cylinders, and it was 60 in each. Consistency is a plus I guess, but I thought that might of been higher. Is that good? As part of preventive maintenance we just changed the oil, exhaust manifold, and pipe, plugs, plug wires, and rebuilt the carb. Thinking a valve tune couldn't hurt. So just wanting to know what you would ask for a price, and what things could be done to help add vaule. The cameras batteries are dead, but maybe we'll get pictures to help get an idea. So I'm rambling on, thanks in advance.

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chuck craig in SUNNY SOCA

10-15-2007 20:09:05




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
where is this "H"



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Wayne in MN

10-15-2007 13:55:02




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
When you performed the compression check, did you have the throttle wide open? If closed there will not be as much air available for compression leading to smaller numbers on the gauge. The engine should be warm, also.
Check compression the first time "dry"; then squirt some clean oil in the cylinders, crank a few revolutions and re-test "wet". If the pressure increases significantly the piston rings are likely worn out.

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tpohl

10-15-2007 13:41:51




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
Where is the tractor located?



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Jarod

10-15-2007 12:25:52




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
Great replys, ty. I was kind of thinking an even pressure might be a good sign, but I have never seen a pressure that low ever. 90 is the lowest I've seen, till now. Then again I've never seen a motor have a low 5.1 compression ratio either.

To the people that are sad to see it being sold. Well, it's a good tractor, part of the family, but we don't need two anymore. We've bought a 52 Ferguson that we've had for two years, and we mow most the yard with it, we couldn't use the H for that. It would tip for sure. Now that we've got a three point blade for it, well old trusty H just isn't needed. Sad but true. It would be fun to restore, I'm sure the person that buys it will agree. Now we have the Fergy to have the fun with.

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dhermesc

10-15-2007 11:18:43




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
Depends on where you are. In NE Kansas any H in running condition seems to bring $800 at least. But thye can be "restored" to near perfect condition and only bring $2000 tops.



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M Nut

10-15-2007 10:46:55




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 10:03:39  
60 pounds of compression is quite low. About half of what it should have. Motor needs a rebuild right away. From your description I'd say the tractor is worth around $400. Remember, an H is a dime a dozen tractor.



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RAB

10-15-2007 12:08:42




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to M Nut, 10-15-2007 10:46:55  
I never believe the figures. They may be indicative but are irrelevant. The even readings shows them more as an indicator that all is well. I would certainly not immediately say 'it needs an engine rebuild right away' unless I was in the market for it!! Pressure guages - well any mechanical guages - are subject to about +100%, -50% errors unless recently certified. RAB



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M Nut

10-15-2007 12:45:16




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to RAB, 10-15-2007 12:08:42  
Sorry RAB,
I have to disagree. I always take a compression test if there is any doubt, and at 60 pounds there is a problem. Consistant or not makes no difference. I have gone through several motors on the old IH tractors, and they should be well above 100 to be in the "normal" range. If my compression tester was off as much as your statistics say they can be, I'd strongly recomend buying a better quality compression tester.
I am all for this gentleman getting as much money for his tractor as he can. I was simply trying to be realistic with an answer to his question. As far as me wanting the tractor, no I have no desire to own this particluar tractor. I buy and sell sometimes 2-3 tractors a day. I really have no need for this one. It will make a nice project for the right person though!

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RAB

10-15-2007 16:11:36




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to M Nut, 10-15-2007 12:45:16  
You did not read my post properly!! By all means do a compression test. What I am/was saying is your results would probably be way different to his, so do not judge a particular compression test without/before checking and knowing they are accurate. That is all.
RAB



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Dave H (MI)

10-15-2007 11:26:04




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to M Nut, 10-15-2007 10:46:55  
It always pains me a little to read posts like that. No offense, but I would hate to think of agriculture in this country without those dime a dozen H's and M's. The fact that they are common half a century later is testimony to the quality. True, it does not have great economic value, but someone would consider it a great project...me included. Seller should look up the cost of some of the repacement parts needed and keep his feet on the ground where pricing is concerned.

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M Nut

10-15-2007 11:34:13




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Dave H (MI), 10-15-2007 11:26:04  
No Offense intended. I for one think the H Farmall is one of the greatest tractors ever produced. I always have at least one in the herd to use as a chore tractor. However, as a seller, it needs to be kept in mind that good running H's can be bought all the time for $850-$950 dollars. I do know this first hand. I have bought and sold at least a dozen in the past couple of years. Good runners with average paint and tires seldom bring more than $900. Poor paint and a junk motor make it worth what it is. Not a whole lot. I also would consider it a great project, but it still is only worth little more than salvage price in that condition. You can't pay $900, then start fixing it up unless you simply don't care about the economics of the project.
I meant no disrespect in my original post, and I mean none in this one as well.

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Jarod

10-15-2007 12:28:48




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to M Nut, 10-15-2007 11:34:13  
Oh yeah, the tires along are going to sell some of it. They're like new. But still it is sad to see old snow pusher going. My kid loved riding on it.



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Dave from MN

10-15-2007 12:41:03




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 12:28:48  
Well, if it is in that kind of shape, you are not going to get more than slavage price. A few hundred. I think you may be able to donate it to a school FFA project. Not sure if it is deductible or not. It is amazing what them kids do with them projects.



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Jarod

10-15-2007 12:59:18




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Dave from MN, 10-15-2007 12:41:03  
Donate, I don't think that will happen. If anything we keep it, big deal. It's a great tractor, still has loads of power. No signs of much blow-by. I'll make sure to post what it brings though, high or low, or not sold.

I made it sound if really bad shape in my first post, but I just didn't want to talk it up. I'm not looking for a buyer here. Might end up checking the bearings see if a full overhul is needed and cut our losses(which arn't much) or just a over bore, and pistons. Only time will tell.

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Jarod

10-15-2007 16:50:03




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 12:59:18  
I feel like an idiot. The adapter had a leak. It's in the 120 range, and I don't have faith in the Gauge/me anymore. lol



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M Nut

10-15-2007 18:35:31




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 Re: Farmall H Price Check in reply to Jarod, 10-15-2007 16:50:03  
Well that is certainly good news for you, and the potential buyer. Now I'd say your tractor is in the $800+ range considering with 120 pounds of compression the motor is likley in pretty good shape based on how you said it ran. Glad you discovered your simple mistake. Trust me, it can and does happen to anyone!



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