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OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike

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Midwest redneck

09-30-2007 08:14:38

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It amazes me that Jenny Granholm and the Mich. legislature cant get a balanced budget put together. I think that they should A: Cut Spending...Alot B: Lay off 10% of all Michigan government workers, just like in the private sector when times are tough. Be honest guys....Who voted for this stupid *itch Jenny, not me. If the government raises taxes that would be the dumbest thing they can do. It will just chase more people and businesses out of here. Just had to vent a little.

Did I mention that I cant stand Jenny. I checked with my son's school on Friday and it will be open regardless of what the clowns in Lansing do.

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Todd-MI

10-01-2007 15:10:43

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

I can not believe the time just wasted reading rrlund replies! Maybe his well should be check for lead contamination? LMAO

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Vern-MI

10-01-2007 05:31:32

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to hayray, 10-01-2007 04:58:38

Wait until next year when they have to do this all over again to pay those bloated state employee and MEA retirement benefits. It will be worse next year.

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Spook

09-30-2007 22:26:18

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

At the end of the day, I really don't think we can blame "Jenny" for all the state's problems. The teacher's insurance thing is one issue the teacher's union has been careful to protect, but it is only a drop in the bucket. We are ground zero for the globalization of the auto industry. A good analogy might be the dustbowl of the 30's to the state of Nebraska. Nothing is going to be the same. I talked to a guy recently who said he worked for a defense company. 9 years ago they were hiring guys with an associate's degree and a couple of years experience for $24 per hour. Now they are hiring people with the same or better credentials for $14 per hour. Most of the tool & die shops i know of have gone out of business. I know of 3 guys who all employed 10 or more people in their tool shops, and all 3 are "retired". They sold thier shops for pennies on the dollar. Manufacturing made this state, and it is going down with it.

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rrlund

10-01-2007 05:44:39

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Spook, 09-30-2007 22:26:18

Well,I don't know why anybody expected anything different. You can't elect an anti business governor in an industrial state and expect business to just roll over and take it in the a**. they had the option to leave and did. When she was attorney general,she practically needed a cigarette (if you know what I mean) every time she would announce she was suing another business out of business.I don't know how anybody could think this was a quality we needed in a governor. Just a small glimpse of what will happen to the country if a certain female senator from New York is elected president. I think we should have just sold the UP to Wisconsin instead of raising taxes. Could have raised enough money to run what's left of the state for a few years,had a leaner meaner state and the Wisconsinites could have had a great tourist destination.

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Tradititonal Farmer

10-01-2007 03:56:00

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Spook, 09-30-2007 22:26:18

The dust bowl was caused by nature Michigan's problems are self inflicted by humans.I'd give a lot credit to unions expecting their members to be paid far above the national average.Sooner or later the products they build will price themselves out of the market. I can get top quality machine shop work done here at a fraction of what
I hear it costs you Northern Boys

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centralilbaler

09-30-2007 18:22:36

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

I'm glad to see that Illinois isn't the only state that elected Bozo act alikes for state gov't

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Joe (Wa)

09-30-2007 16:11:23

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

Where the heck is Michigan??? I always thought it was part of Mexico or one a them 3rd world countries that builds junk cars :^).

Joe

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Midwest redneck

09-30-2007 17:59:51

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Joe (Wa), 09-30-2007 16:11:23

Thats funny, I thought Wa. state was where flaming homo tree huggers took rights away from land owners and Bill Gates owned everything.

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Joe (Wa)

09-30-2007 19:01:01

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 17:59:51

MR, just wondering if anyone was going to defend MI, guess not.

BTW, you're pretty much right about WA in the I-5 corridor, rest of us are just hicks.

Joe

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Dave BN

09-30-2007 14:29:00

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

I live in Ravenna, half way between Grand Rapids and Muskegon. They can shut the Michigan government down for all I care. I figured out that there is NOTHING I need from them. If they do shut down the state government does that mean they stop taking state tax out of my pay? Will they stop collecting state sales tax? That will be a bonus if they do. Dave

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BLinWMi

10-01-2007 05:55:32

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Dave BN, 09-30-2007 14:29:00

Funny, a buddy of mine is a manager at Speedway there in downtown,lol, by the stockyard. Says he has had people just all worked up because they won't be able to buy their booze and lottery tickets as of today. I live just a handful of miles east of ya, by Fillmore, and can't honestly say that the whole Lansing nonsense will hurt me a bit, especially with my weeks vacation commencing at World Dairy Expo in WI tommorrow.

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midwest redneck

09-30-2007 15:34:11

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Dave BN, 09-30-2007 14:29:00

I would like to the see the Michigan government shut down too. From the stand point of if they are finished do I have to pay taxes to the idiots that run the state? A town just north of me called Goodrich, SE of Flint wants to do away with their village and of course the village government is saying "You Need Us" (of course it is the other way around) government needs people to tax so that they can justify their existance.

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marlowe

09-30-2007 13:23:54

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

same thing in WI. can't or don't want to pass it. but all we do is sit back and -itch !!!! it's about time we all get together and stand up for our self. and then in a few years we will vote the same ba-terds back in

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rrlund

09-30-2007 13:09:29

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

Hey,by the way,do you know where that term "redneck" came from? It was a UNION COAL MINER in West Virginia. They wore red bandanas to identify themselves as "union members" and a reporter called them rednecks during a miners union strike. If anybody calls me a redneck,I set them straight in a hurry and tell them I'm not a redneck,I'm a hillbilly. That term originally meant a Michigan farmer. Back in the day when the surveyors came here,somebody who wasn't very bright was called a "billy". When the surveyors went back to civilization,they said this place was nothing but hills and swamps and a person would have to be an idiot to come here. (some things haven't changed have they?) So,anybody who came here to these hills to settle,they assumed must not be very bright,so they called them hillbillies. Was I you,I'd change my name from midwest redneck to midwest hillbilly. :)

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John S-B

09-30-2007 16:16:33

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 13:09:29

I've heard that a hillbilly with an education, job and some sense should be called a hillwilliam, being that they are of the upper crust set. ;^)

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Midwest redneck

09-30-2007 13:58:42

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 13:09:29

My wife calls me a redneck, because she think I do redneck things like: Cut down trees, own guns, and do things like ride tractors. She is (was) a city girl through and through. Now she lives in the country and likes it. I was a suburban boy growing up. A hillbilly to me a is a guy that wears no shoes, chews tobacco, lives in a real dumpy house or shack, and makes moonshine. And is usually a drunk. and has no working appliances on his front porch. and may live in a trailer. and may have slept with his sister. Did I miss anything.

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rrlund

09-30-2007 15:17:15

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 13:58:42

Everybody has their own definition of what's what. I know you don't want to call my in laws in Kentucky ridge runners. They'll tell ya,ridge runners are from Tennessee.

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midwest redneck

09-30-2007 11:44:47

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Vern-MI, 09-30-2007 09:03:46

Yep, I hate democraps.

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rrlund

09-30-2007 09:11:44

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Vern-MI, 09-30-2007 09:03:46

Only thing about that automatic property tax increase Vern,is that your taxable value can't excede your state equaized value. So if the SEV,which is based on actual value,drops below taxable value,property tax will go down. We're starting to see it here in the most depressed county in the state. 13% unemployment by the way,down from 15% a year ago,only because people are abandoning their homes and leaving. But anyway,I'm chairman of township board of review and we had some parcels last year where the SEV went below taxable value and we had to lower the taxable.So things are looking up here! LOL

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midwest redneck

09-30-2007 11:45:43

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 09:11:44

Where in Michigan are you at?

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rrlund

09-30-2007 12:12:22

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 11:45:43

Montcalm County. When Electrolux moved 2700 jobs out of Greenville and Tower took another 200 away,it sure changed the landscape around here. Doesn't hurt the feelings of a crotchity old pain in the a$$ like me. They were all union thugs with a cocky attitude making 10 times what they were worth anyway. Sure made 'em humble in a hurry.

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davpal

09-30-2007 14:07:36

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 12:12:22

Your going to have a hard time convincing me that Greenville is in that bad of shape. I live right straight east of you and go through that area all the time. I know about Electrolux, Tower, and also Hitachi moving out of there but if a person drives through there it is nothing but new construction all over the place, Greenville appears to be booming, tons of new houses everywhere you look, beautiful farms and land. Your making it sound like the projects over there. I think if most people from around this country drove through your area they would think it was one of the nicest areas in the country. Don't feel to sorry for yourself.

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rrlund

09-30-2007 15:07:48

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to davpal, 09-30-2007 14:07:36

I'm not feeling the least bit sorry for myself. I've got one of those farms. drive the side roads around here though. You'll see a never ending stream of empty houses for sale. Just up and abandoned. You're right,those of us that are "from around here" and have established ourselves are laughing all the way to the bank. If anybody is foolish enough to invest money in new housing or retail around here though,it ain't the locals. We're smart enough to hang on to it. If it ain't got to do with potatoes,dry beans,cattle or ethanol,I wouldn't invest 10 cents in it around here.Sure will make these industries easier to engage in with fewer people around.

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Midwest redneck

09-30-2007 13:08:09

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 12:12:22

Those union guys are overpaid...and some of them know it but they have this attitude of "I am an American, and the union wont sell me out". An older lady who I used to work with told me she was laid off from a union plant years ago and she told me that the union will sell you down the river in the end. 8 years ago my father in law wanted to get me into the Ford plant where he worked.(skilled trades) I told him thanks but no thanks. That plant where he worked for 37 years is in bad shape, lots of layoff. and I am glad I never got in there. My father in law died a year ago of cancer, smoking related.

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730virgil

09-30-2007 20:54:01

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 15:14:30

yep join the union then if you worked for the state of Il or taught school in Il the democrud govner will steal your union penision funds the float his pet projects.

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sammy the RED

09-30-2007 08:53:34

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to Midwest redneck, 09-30-2007 08:14:38

Jenny At Work !
What A Joke She Is !

Maybe We Can Ship Her Back Home To Canada ?

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Davidj

10-02-2007 07:11:28

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to sammy the RED, 09-30-2007 08:53:34

No Thanks....We"ve enough of her kind here. Maybe we can ship some more off....To China...

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BLinWMi

10-01-2007 05:49:05

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Re: OT: Hey Michigan, RU ready for a tax hike in reply to rrlund, 09-30-2007 08:47:10

You have got to be kidding, you voted for that, oh I can't even say it. We had a decent candidate in the other party and you supported HER??? I don't get why anyone outside of the 3 Detroit counties would have voted for her. We had a guy with a successful business record and country common sense and decency. I guess some people asked for what ever she is/has/will give us.

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