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OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is the

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Kent in KC

09-21-2007 19:38:26




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I have two Chrysler cars, a 95 Neon (aka the 'Dodge NoRun') and a 98 Breeze (aka the 'Plymouth Wheeze') both with the infamous 2.0L four.

Each has a strikingly similar playlist of plagues like on again-off again dashboards, oil smoking, clattering lifters and radiator/water pump failures, to mention just a tiny few. I'm so upside down on each car I'm reluctant to put much more money in them, yet I have to, to drive them or sell them. Grr.

Anyway, would it make sense to switch from 10W-30 to 5W-40 or some additive to reduce the smoking and prolong the agony, I mean life, of these two fine American made icons of automotive supremacy?

Would it make further sense to contemplate a valve job, for the sake of new valve guides and seals? i.e. Just what typically does make these calamaties, I mean cars, seem to go to an early living death? I've given them all the love a man can give, well-- not like a tractor, but still, well-maintained. Yet they repay my affection with hellish clouds of steam, fogs of blue smoke, a cacaphony of clattering and a positively raucous romp of metallic, monotonous, mechanical and monstrous mayhem! Oh, help me, brother tractor men, so I may love again.

Okay, nevermind that, let's just stick to the crankcase. Any ideas, gents?

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Rickey h

09-23-2007 13:56:29




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to Kent in KC, 09-21-2007 19:38:26  
I have never used a pennzoil filter, most of the time fram.. But just the other day a friend of mine changed oil in his tractor (Long 445 ) an the filter clogged at start up no oil psi (fram filter) sooooo



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rustyj

09-23-2007 12:42:31




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to Kent in KC, 09-21-2007 19:38:26  
I worked for a Chrysler Dealer in the early eighties. several times, a customer came in with their Mopar product making all kinds of noises in the engine compartment. Invariably, upon inspection, we'd find a cheap after-market oil filter on the engine! Removal of the filter and replacing it with a Mopar filter would get everything back to normal, with no more noise! The Pennzoil filter seemed to be the worst, followed by Wix and the other bargain store filters.

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Rickey h

09-23-2007 04:54:04




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to Kent in KC, 09-21-2007 19:38:26  
My s10 had 241000 miles when it was totaled I ran 10w40 in winter and 20w50 in spring and summer pennzoil changed every 5000 miles engine was still doing great the day of the crash my 2cents oh I started this after 100000



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fixerupper

09-22-2007 10:46:11




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to Kent in KC, 09-21-2007 19:38:26  
Try some RISLONE (sp) oil treatment. I'm not much of one to promote 'overhaul in a can' products, but I did pour it in a knocking, leaking Chevette and it did the job for awhile. The oil consumption went from a quart every 250 to a quart every 1200 mi. and the knock quieted a bit. Now the evils are coming back but the additive did work for 10000 miles or so. Jim



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TomTex

09-22-2007 04:36:58




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to Kent in KC, 09-21-2007 19:38:26  
Instead of over-doing the point that you should have not bought these cars, how about some info. What brand oil have you been running? What oil change interval? Milage? Repair history? Tell us this and we can give you some suggestions. Tom



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uncle

09-22-2007 06:34:53




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 Re: OT: Different oil viscosity for older car (and where is in reply to TomTex, 09-22-2007 04:36:58  
I've read on several different posts, especially on the Detroit Diesel Board, that the multi-vis oil is not good for certain engines.
The thing is that 10w30 oil is 10weight with additives to make it perform like 30weight.
From the info I have gathered it would be better to fun straight 30W or 40W oil.
I have not had the opportunity to try this on my own stuff, but it makes since to me.

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