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Dairy farmer in

09-01-2007 19:16:39




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well i foud out that my 1030 Case needs a total overahaul. more money down the drain:( just got done putting a $800 radiator in my skid steer. course this is my blower tractor and it breaks down JUST before chopping. oh well guess i could work my overhauled M real good!. might run the blower with thw M and see how that works out.
just venting
DF in WI




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barnrat

09-02-2007 17:44:35




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
We ran a Farmall M on the blower to fill my neighbors 14x40, When his 806D spun a bearing. It worked good cept it cost us bout $100 in gas. I use my Old JD 830 2 cylinder.
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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

09-02-2007 15:55:27




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
$800 for a skid steer radiator? I need another sideline. Sorry we are not about 150 miles closer. I have a neighbor that swears by case (in a good way) and has them all over. He might pay better than scrap and be able to use it. If you are looking for some quick cash for another tractor, I could ask him.



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low budget

09-02-2007 02:55:05




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
I don't know how tall your silo is but I used a JD 620 for filling a pair of 50 foot silos with haylage for many years, the Ford 5000 drew loads (better brakes and faster road gear) and JD 4020 chopped. My brotther really hustled with the wagons and kept up with me chopping pretty good except on the farthest fields. I think you'll find the M does fine.



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Don-Wi

09-01-2007 22:28:37




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
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I forget, how bigga tractor is an M? Our blower tractor is our Oliver 1600 gasser. Not as big as our hauling tractor(massey 285), but a much better blower tractor.

The years the 1600 didn't run we used the 285 on the blower and the 165 on the wagons, but the 285 has a hydraulic PTO brake and was hell on that. Had to replace it once, and another year would've smoked the next one. The 1600 is fully mechanical, straight shaft to the flywheel. It just grunts a little and shoves it up the pipe.

It probably helps I upped the bore from the 3 5/8 it had to 3 3/4. It was supposed to have a 3 1/2 bore in it according to the serial number, but my grandpa bought it about a year after it was built so I'm thinking the dealer upgraded it and put the bigger pistons/sleeves in the original engine. Either way, I'm sure it puts out a good strong 70 HP now. I had the dealer dyno it after I rebuilt it, but they were afraid to push an engine they didn't build so they only pushed it to about 55HP, which kinda defeated the cost of haveing them test it.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Dairy farmer in WI

09-02-2007 13:47:35




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Don-Wi, 09-01-2007 22:28:37  
an M is about 50 HP. it should do fine with the blower i have anyways. i have a Case IH 600 Blower and it blows lots better them them whirl-a-feeds i useta have. you have some real nice looking olivers How many you got? i want one but don't know what to get. just for a chore tractor.
have a good day
DF in WI



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Don-Wi

09-02-2007 23:31:11




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-02-2007 13:47:35  
We've got 3 Ollies, but only 2 run right now. The 3rd is a 1755 Diesel with a bad engine, been sitting for probably about 4 years now, maybe 5. We got the 1855 the next year from the same dealer, but this one is a much better unit. Had a heck of a time convincing my dad the 1855 was the one we needed too- but now I'm pretty sure he likes running that one. We did have it in the shop a few times already, but nothing like the 1755 was.

Grandpa's 1600 never left the farm other than a trip to the shop once in a while.

I only go to Tesch Brothers out in Seymour unless I absolutely gotta have a more common part, and it's after noon on Saturday. Then Greutt's in Potter is ussually open til 3 during the summer.. Otherwise they're not very good for the newer Ollies or the older whites... They only want to handle new tractors and the stuff they build themselves it seems.

Doesn't the 600 have a really big band? Something like 60"+? We borrowed the neighbors' 600 IH blower and that thing was a real load on the 285. We had to use it because our Kools blower threw a paddle and we were buying corn off thier field. I was using the 1855 to haul wagons, but after working the 285 so hard we put the 1855 on and really poured the coals to 'er. It's just a very strong running tractor.

For a chore tractor, how many horses you want? Our 1855 is a good 100+. My 1600 is probably around 65-70, although I kinda wish grandpa woulda bought a diesel. A good all around chore tractor for hauling wagons and still being able to do something would probably be the 1600/50/55. The 1755 wasn't too bad either, but after going around with the 1855, man now that's a tractor. Ours puts out what the 1955's were rated for. A 1855 from the factory was rated for about 95. The 1755's were around 85.

I like the hydraulic brakes on the bigger 55 series(17's on up), they've got no problems stopping a loaded wagon at road speeds.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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evilboweviel

09-02-2007 14:13:11




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-02-2007 13:47:35  
1600,1650,1655 are considered by many to be the best chore tractor Oliver made
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msb

09-01-2007 21:36:29




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
Your dealer have one he would rent?A neighbor?



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John S-B

09-01-2007 19:49:28




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
Yeah, I bought a nice looking 214t baler and baled about five bales before it broke. bought it for $800 and then spent that much fixing it. At least now it runs like a champ. My self propelled windrower will probably end up with all new bearings in the drive lines before I get done. But at least they're all paid for.



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Leland

09-01-2007 19:48:37




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
you probley can buy another running case cheaper than the rebuild ,



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Dairy farmer in WI

09-02-2007 13:43:44




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Leland, 09-01-2007 19:48:37  
yeah but i can't get anything for it at the nearest boneyard. i like the tractor anyways so i figure i mite as well put some money into it so i know what i got . the problem with buying another tractor is that i don't know how much everything on it has been abused. i'm just selling my D-17 to fix that. i never use the allis anyway
DF in WI



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Leland

09-02-2007 14:11:03




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-02-2007 13:43:44  
I get scared of cases ,as when I worked in a shop I saw several that scored pistons for some reason , but I have driven a 1070 a lot probley mowed 20,000 acres of hay with one years ago . But down in cent ILL the smaller cases like you have sell pretty cheap when there is a auction



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RobMD

09-01-2007 19:24:42




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 Re: OT: nuther money hole in reply to Dairy farmer in WI, 09-01-2007 19:16:39  
And the wife always says: "now you understand why i hate it when you buy junk"

Good luck.



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