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n8terry

09-01-2007 13:53:52




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I am curious about what you guys think.

What kind of tractors would you like to see at shows?

A tractor restored by an individual that probably looks better than it did when it was new.

or

A tractor restored by a professional where the owner only wrote out the check.

Which of the two do you respect the most?




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Dave 2N

09-02-2007 08:19:18




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
Whatever anyone wants to bring so long as everyone understands that "trailer queens" aren't really representative of what that tractor was like when it left the dealership.

I think folks should try to make their tractors good-looking but without going crazy at the expense of the way the tractor runs. I'm enchanted with with all old tractors, but most particlularly with those that are mechanically right. "Whatever" as far as paint is concerned. To me, there's nothing better than seeing and hearing a good running and "honest" old tractor.

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RAB

09-02-2007 01:35:01




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
Probably neither. If you want to see tractors 'better than when the were new' they have not been restored properly!
If the professional does the same as in the above case or just throws paint as a profession, but is only in it for the maximum profit, that may be rubbish or good.
Restored to what? As new? As worked in the 1940s or 50s? To as they were when last used? Mechanically as well as visual?

Anyway, how can you tell at a rally, unless you believe everything you are told (some people do and some lie!)? Some people are ace at the mechanicals and some are ace at paintwork. Some are ace at telling the story of the machine. They all have their place and if someone does all the work except applying the paint, where do you put them in your narrow categories? From me - no chance of saying either of your options. Sorry.

In my view, any of these old tractors can tell a story. Just depends on circumstance. Better than new is someones favourite while as it is, 'but now running' is anothers. I do not care greatly as long as they are kept from the junker and are someones pride and joy.

RAB

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Don-Wi

09-01-2007 23:32:27




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
If I know a guy spent years and every last dime he had available to restore grandpa's tractor, that's the one with the most respect in my book (such as my grandpa's 1600 I did, with the paint being done by my brother)

I rebuilt the engine with an overbore kit, had the hydra-power gone through and fixed up, and all new wires, hoses, belts, tires etc. It just wouldn't have been right to NOT paint it, as it was just plain rusty and beat. The best part is, it still earns it's keep around here, though not as much as if it were a diesel.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Walt Davies

09-01-2007 23:02:59




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
I love them fancy rigs that some rich guy has built for him. they show up at the old fashioned tractor pull now and then and can't get past the first chair. I then take my beat up Ol' Case LA and show them how to pull it right. Front wheels off the ground and black smoke bellowing from the stack with a roar that just pulls at your heart strings an make you feel like you are going to blow something at any second.

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john *.?-!.* cub owner

09-01-2007 19:29:02




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to CWL, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
My favorite is the old working tractor, preferably with some kind of implement. Without an implement, they are just a yard ornament. As to respect, the guy that does it himself gets a mot more respect from me than the one that throws money at it.



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Eric SEI

09-01-2007 18:58:54




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
Would I be able to tell the difference? If they look the same then they are the same to a spectator.

A row of perfectly restored JD Bs or Farmall Ms is boring. I want to see a variety.

When I'm looking at antique tractors at a show I don't care who did the restoration. If it is correct, fine. If it has a modification tell us what and why. Orchards, HiCrops, Industrials are all interesting.

If you want to brag that you did it your self, show pictures of before, after, and work in progress. Otherwise, a tractor is a tractor.

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Fawteen

09-01-2007 18:10:16




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
A person should do whatever makes them happy with their tractor.

If that's a multi-year, multi-thousand dollar, correct-to-the-last-Amelite-grease-fitting, rope it off and don't touch it restoration, fine.

If it's a "hit it with a pressurewasher to blow the cowsh!t off it and take it to the show", that's fine too.

Personally, I have a little trouble figuring out how a person can spend years and a bundle of money chasing parts to make sure the restoration is "correct" and then put an acrylic unobtainium paint job on it that cost more than the original tractor and still think it's "correct", but hey, if that's what floats their boat, fine. It's THEIR tractor.

Mine has more errors than a Florida ballot box, but it runs, it pulls stuff, and it tickles me to play with it, and that's what floats my boat.

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ScottyHOMEy

09-01-2007 17:27:40




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
I appreciate anyone who shares an old tractor with folks who don't have one, and respect their motives, whatever they are.

From a little different angle on the word, I can appreciate the work folks put into restoring, to whatever level, any piece of old iron. I know the enjoyment from working on them. In the last ten year, I've redisovered the satisfaction of tearing down and rebuilding an engine, something I hadn't known since I tore down my '64 Beetle, applying (then and now) what I'd learned from helping Grandpa work on his Farmalls and the Wisconsin on his baler. On the latest one, I gained an especial appreciation of what it takes to be a good painter. (I'm not ready to take on anybody's car yet!)

In that same sense of the word, I also appreciate and respect the folks that bring out tractors and implements in their working clothes.

I can learn from all of them and, will help anyone who asks if I can.

I have little appreciation and only the most basic of human respect for the correct police, who will howl, guffaw, harangue and otherwise make arses of themselves pointing out marked Grade 8s where there used to be dot-head bolts. My greasy tractor was farmerized and repaired, something I continue in keeping it going and working. My "pet" sentimental restoration is real shiny and pretty and runs like a top, but I put a few bent nails back in in place of cotter pins, right where Grandpa left them, and I still use the same rusty old bent gate hinges to hold the drawbar in place. And his old rusty hitch pin.

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kyplowboy

09-01-2007 18:06:12




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to ScottyHOMEy, 09-01-2007 17:27:40  
If some one wants to put alot of time and money into get'n a tractor back to show room shine thats fine. I think you hit the nail on the head with your grandpa's tractor. What I wouldn't give to have granddad's M back. Just the way he left it. Tractors are wonderful things. Some should be in museums, some should hold onto the "advanced barn yard engineering" that make each one unique.

Dave



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Chances R

09-01-2007 17:20:25




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
I like em all



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Gordy from Iowa

09-01-2007 15:06:18




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
I respect both of them. Why do you ask?



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n8terry

09-01-2007 16:09:51




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to Gordy from Iowa, 09-01-2007 15:06:18  
I asked cause I wanted your opinion, thanks for sharing it.



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Armand Tatro

09-01-2007 14:12:14




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to n8terry, 09-01-2007 13:53:52  
There is a third choice and that would be a good running old tractor with an average coat of paint (nothing fancy) and a few upgrades ( 3pt., loader with quick-change bucket and other attachments to name a few options) that still goes out works when needed. This would be my choice over a fancy restored tractor regardless of who did the work and paid for it. Armand



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Gary from Muleshoe

09-01-2007 14:47:56




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to Armand Tatro, 09-01-2007 14:12:14  
I'll second that. I do like a good looking tractor, but one that has such a fancy paint job that you can't even let a kid get his picture taken on it is no longer a true tractor it is just a show piece. A good paint job that I can touch up with a spray can when I go to the show now that's a real tractor.



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pair-a-dice farm

09-01-2007 14:44:26




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 Re: tractor judging/respect in reply to Armand Tatro, 09-01-2007 14:12:14  
I agree, I think a tractor that is in good running condition and can still do the job is much better.



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