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tractor Hank

08-29-2007 20:19:51




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I have a 2004 Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 truck and have a chance to buy a very nice slide in truck camper weighing about 1900 lbs for a extremely good price. Will my truck handle this OK. My book says max vehicle carrying weight of about 1700 lbs. I have had 2000 lbs in it many times before with no problems.




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landlord7012

08-30-2007 15:58:43




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
I wouldn't even entertain the thought with that kind of weight. I've got a '99 3-door 1/2 4X4, auto trans w/OD (which supposedly has the "heavy-half" option) and haul a 960 lb. Manawa slide-in. I haul ATV's (2-place trailer) or my 14 ft glass boat behind it but it is WORKING. It's almost level, slightly squats. I don't go more than 100 miles away loaded like that because I know it's not the best combination. Buy the camper if the price is that great then spend the money you saved on a 3/4 ton truck ;)

You didn't sayif it was 6 or 8 ft. I used to haul that same camper in my '92 short-box and that probaly wasn't the best idea either considering the point of gravity was 1 1/2 feet behind the rear axle!

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Tramway Guy

08-30-2007 07:45:16




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
The last three trucks that I bought had a special note in the owners manual package about slide-in campers. They all were 3/4 Ton Diesel Heavy-duty trucks, all 4x4 and all said that they were not recommended for slide-in campers---presumeably because of their higher center of gravity.
In spite of this, we did use a couple of them to haul an 8' camper with bed over cab with no particular problem. But I can see how a larger one might be a bit dicey.

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jdemaris

08-30-2007 06:40:33




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
I think you'd be miserable driving it - especially since I suppose you want it for "vacation" use? I've got an 8' lightweight pop-up slide-on camper - weighs 1275 lbs. empty. The pop-up is a really nice feature since it has less wind resistance than the standard units. We also use it quite a bit off-road, so the low clearnace is a must to get under tree branches. I bought it from a guy that tried using it on his 2001 1/2 ton Ford. He installed air-bag load-levelers but barely got along with it and was not comfortable driving it on long trips. So, he got a trailer-camper instead. I bought it for $900 in like-new condition. My 1300 lb. camper gets 500 lbs. plus of gear added including two deep-cycle batteries. Also, last trip I took got two adults, two teenage children, a three year old, and one large crippled dog - another 700+ pounds. I use it with my ext-cab, Ford turbo-diesel, HD 3/4 ton, and can't imagine doing it with less truck. And, if your camper is a high hard-top, with high wind resistance, and also with large fresh and waste water tanks, hot water heater, etc., - seems no trip in it would be much fun.

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mjbrown

08-30-2007 06:21:51




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
I drove on once that was on a too light truck and it felt like it wanted to swap bottom side for top at any moment. They have a high center of gravity.



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1936

08-30-2007 05:52:44




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
Slide in I had was about like what you discribed. Had a 3/4 T. Anyting less and you will get about a 100 miles before you pull the plug and turn back. Be sure to put and lot of extra air in the rear tires. A lesson I learned in under the first hundred miles. If it is a good price pick it up and work on a bigger truck. Also learned that using it two weeks a years did pay to own it. Good for when you want your boat along. Be sure to put a front hitch on the truck to get the boat in the water.

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Don-Wi

08-29-2007 23:58:02




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
I sure wouldn't try it. My brother borrowed a friends old slide-in camper this past memorial day weekend and put it in his 2003 F350 single axle- it was sitting on the helper springs when it was all loaded up. His buddy couldn't even use it because he only had a 93 F150. Way too heavy for it.

I know that newer trucks can handle more payload, but not that much. You'd have a good ton in the back including gear, plus some of that weight will hang out past the back of the box, which means that it acts as a lever and transfers more weight to the back axle.

Donovan from Wisconsin

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Jim.UT

08-29-2007 20:58:39




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 Re: truck slide in camper in reply to tractor Hank, 08-29-2007 20:19:51  
You can try it, but I'm guessing that if you go anywhere hilly you'll want a bigger truck.

The camper may weigh 1900 lbs, but that's before Mrs. Hank fills up the cupboards and fridge and before you add all the stuff you gotta have when you go camping.

Here's how truck weight ratings work (as I understand them). Look on the decal on the driver's door jamb. Find the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). Now take your empty truck to the local gravel pit or port of entry and ask if you can run it across their scales.

Take the GVWR and subtract what your truck weighs with you in it. To be safe subtract your wife's weight, too (be honest about it, but don't tell her). The result is what your truck should theoretically be able to safely handle.

Can it handle more? Yeah, probably. But if you're involved in an accident and the report states you were overweight, you've given the authorities more ammo against you and the insurance company a reason not to pay a claim.

When we bought our camper we went whole hog. The beast weighs almost 3000 lbs all by itself. It's rated as a 12 footer, but overal length with the extended cabover is over 19'. We had a Dodge 3/4 ton truck at the time and I had to install an onboard airbag system just to level the truck.

After about a year of messing with that I upgraded to a 1 ton dually and am very glad I did.

Also, did you know that a 4x4 truck and a 4x2 truck have the same GVWR but the 4x4 weighs more so is rated to haul less than the 2 wheel drive? For that reason I purposely bought a 2wd dually. Not easy to find something like that around here. People here figure if it ain't 4 wheel drive, it ain't a truck.

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