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Logan in S.E. T

08-25-2007 04:04:01




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Morning All,

A good friend is considering going into the dump truck business. I have limited knowledge/experience and he has none. Where would we be able to find information on the web? Anybody got a favorite site? Thanks in advance. Y'all have a good day. Logan




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Billy NY

08-25-2007 11:41:52




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Logan in S.E. Texas, 08-25-2007 04:04:01  
That is or can be a real tough racket, to start you need a reliable truck in good working condition and you need to be able to maintain it with minimal down time at all costs no matter what may happen, flat tires to serious repairs. You'll also need some start up capital to cover all the direct/indirect costs of this kind of business and be able to float awhile for whatever is needed. Marketing - you need steady work that pays.


The work you go after, hauling contracts, has to be profitable, you need to determine this before agreeing to any hauling work, and it varies by virtue of what kind of work you do. Construction sites, heavy and highway work is tough on a truck, demanding of a driver and changes like the weather. I know of some sucessful people in the business,(link below) someone I know who started in the early to mid 90's he's probably up to a dozen tri-axles and twice as many trailers going now but he does specialized hauling too, started by doing some work with large construction companies, not sure how they made it successful, just know it's not easy, especially in the beginning, you need consistent work that pays on time, someone who needs the work done but does not want the headache of trucks and drivers, a lot of the large construction companies have their own fleets, but require more trucks at peak times on jobs, to keep material flowing. You also have to be diversified to cater to other markets as if construction dries up what else can you do to keep working.

I drove for several years and operated heavy equipment, earlier in my career, spent a lot of time in tri-axles hauling heavy materials like asphalt, crushed stone, gravel, fill as well as moving large excavation equipment to jobs, you need to be an good driver attentive to the road and the vehicle you run, you will deal with tires, brakes, scheduled maintenance and most likely serious repairs at some point along the way. Some of those repairs will be needed at the most inopportune times, so the truck is back on the road.

Don't forget law enforcement, insurances, regulations and lots of other similar things.

I have seen power dividers and drivelines break, a tire that blew the battery box cover and fender well out, dumpbodies fall off, seen one too many truck inspections, weight check points, been stuck more times than I can remember, even saw a lady running a nice freightliner tri-axle on the same job, catch a nice piece of rock onto the oilpan while backing in to dump off, tearing it off like a sardine can lid, she left it running too long, spun the bearings on the 425 cat engine, several thousand dollars later she was back on site, large pipeline job hauling backfill from the pit, truck did not belong off road, not enough clearance, this was miles of off road hauling, haul roads were the worst I've ever seen, log mats, bumps galore, granny low for miles till you get to the dump area. Also know someone who's family has a long established businesss, he ran his own truck for a good many years, and kept busy, although he turned over once, loaded, on top of an occupied car, never asked him about it, just knew he went back to the family business after that one.

Not to discourage anyone, can be done, but it's a serious commitment, beyond what most are willing to do.

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135 Fan

08-25-2007 09:56:48




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Logan in S.E. Texas, 08-25-2007 04:04:01  
If you could get contracts with some of the big excavating or road building contractors or concrete plants, then you might have a chance. There are a lot of big expenses running a truck. If you don't have your own shop, it will be even more costly. If you run the truck steady you'll need to be changing the oil about every month and half. You'll need to have a fairly new and reliable truck to have any chance of making a decent living. I would investigate a lot before getting into it. Dave

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jimont

08-25-2007 09:37:00




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Logan in S.E. Texas, 08-25-2007 04:04:01  
Best advice I ever heard was given by the local International Truck dealer to a new buyer---- "In order to pay for this truck, you'll have to wear it out." This advice was given many years ago and the truckin' game has only got worse since then.



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old

08-25-2007 09:31:33




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Logan in S.E. Texas, 08-25-2007 04:04:01  
To do that and come out on top you first off better have a good number of $$ saved up. Cost is high to get into that BTDT and came out ok till the doctor made me retire. Dump truck insurance it high and for a person just starting off its double as high. Plus the price of fuell will kill you also. You need jobs lined up because they don't just fall into you lap and you also will need things like a back hoe, or dozer or loader etc to be able to do it. Again BTDT and yes its best if you can to lease on with some one that has been doing it for years you you can/will loose your a$$

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Janicholson

08-25-2007 06:32:43




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Logan in S.E. Texas, 08-25-2007 04:04:01  
With no experience, it might be stretching fortune to get into it cold. I recommend working for someone for a year before "getting into it".
Solid brand name truck/s
Heil boxes or equal
Matched tires
Solid pre-operation daily service
Preventive maintenance (see UPS for an example)
Pre-contracted demand for service
Time to be away from other things
Patience for loading and unloading delays
Appropriate drivers license
Insurance
Service facility W/tools
Place to park truck/s
Knowledge of dynamics of truck when dumping
Knowng where every load will go and when and for how much and if it is legal

Spend time doing theses things with another person before committing. JimN ---Been there

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kito169

08-25-2007 06:58:27




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 Re: OT Dump Truck ??? in reply to Janicholson, 08-25-2007 06:32:43  
You are truly right about working for someone else first. I bought a Frieghtliner and had never even been inside the cab of a big truck. it was one of the biggest and most expensive mistakes that I have ever made. That was in 1977. I sold it 14 months later and learned to repair them. I have come to the conclusion that to make money with trucks I, personnaly, have to either repair them or buy and sell them. I prefer to repair them. my 2 cents, Rick in central Texas

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