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Do I Have a power master?

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roscoepm

08-22-2007 07:54:36




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Hi,

I've had this tractor for about five years now and it's starting to give me problems. I thought it was an 8n, but it's a diesel with the exhaust sticking up on the left side sitting in the seat. I can't find any numbers on it but it looks like a power master. Also do the 3 point hydraulics have a fill under the seat? Thanks for you help. If you need a picture just let me know how to post it. Thanks

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john in la

08-22-2007 17:29:39




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
Yes that is a powermaster. A powermaster is any tractor in the 801 series. Yours is a 851 from what I see. May be a 861 but I dought it.

The diesel motors are bad about spilling battery acid right on top of the model and serial # so they are often very hard to read. If you follow the link below and post the #'s from your tractor for the first 14 pictures we can narrow down the year for you. Since you have a engine casting # of B9NN6015 it is going to be a late 1959 to early 1961.

Date Codes


If you look in picture # 9 from the top you can see the plug for adding hyd oil just to the top and right of the black circle. In picture # 4 you can see the dip stick for checking the hyd fluid.

I recomend the true Ford manuals.
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roscoepm

08-22-2007 18:19:44




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to john in la, 08-22-2007 17:29:39  
Thanks, that's a lot of information



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skycarp

08-22-2007 16:51:34




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 Re: Manual THANKS in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
At the top left of this page under Marketplace, click on the first button (Tractor Manuals), then click on Ford, in the search box type 851, hit your Return/Enter key. All three of these manuals would be nice to have. The most important would be the service manual, next would be the parts manual, the last would be the owners manual.



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deano

08-22-2007 13:38:47




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
Looks like a 801-901 series which would be a powermaster. Need to look at the flat surface behind starter and below your air intake stack
model and serial numbers should both be stamped in the casting, that will answer a whole bunch of questions



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Old Ford Mechanic

08-22-2007 13:33:16




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
Yes,That is an 851 0r 861 Ford 801 series deisel tractor.Look just behind the starter on the flat surface,it should have 851 0r 861 stamped there.Powermaster it is!



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roscoepm

08-22-2007 16:25:09




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 Manual THANKS in reply to Old Ford Mechanic, 08-22-2007 13:33:16  
Thanks to all of you for your help. Does anybody recomend a good maintence book for this tractor?



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671DKS

08-22-2007 10:02:37




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
if you do have a 801/901 series Powermaster you will find the model number and serial number located on the flat, directly behind the starter on the left side of fwd trans, just under the battery box, alot of time the numbers will be ate up from battery acid and/or painted over quite a bit. you may need to scrape off some paint to read the numbers. behind the starter on the top side of the lug that protrudes out, should be a flat that faces out with two tapped holes, the numbers will be found on the top above that flat/machined area stamped into the trans casting. sometimes when changing out the tranmissions guys would stamp the ser no. onto the opposite side of the trans, same place. post pics if you can which will help but a lot of times these old machine have been repainted and not the true colors and/or same pattern, the powermasters had grey hood with a red stripe including the whole radiator painted red.
good luck, Kent in KS.

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Jim.UT

08-22-2007 09:10:35




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
Too many people automatically assume 8N when they see a Ford tractor. The 8N was built from 1947 to 1952. period. It never had a diesel and it did not have a round hood emblem. It also never was offered in tricycle configuration.

Here's the quick and dirty rundown on Ford tractors:

9N: 1939 - 1942, painted all gray but most have since been repainted gray and red or gray and blue.

2N: 1942 - 1947, same as 9N but with a few minor upgrades through the years.

8N: 1947 - 1952, looks a lot like 9N/2N but painted gray and red. Also 3 speed trans upgraded to 4 speed trans. Position control added to hydraulic system.

NAA: 1953 - 1954: The 1953 was called Golden Jubilee in honor of FoMoCo's 50th addiversary. Many people will call any Ford with a round front emblem a Jubilee, but 1953 is the only year that name correctly applies. Bigger tractor than the 8N. Live hydraulics and an overhead valve engine are the biggest upgrades.

600/800: 1955 - 1957, 600 series is mostly the same as the NAA. 800 series has a bigger engine and rear end. Both look about the same.

700/900: 1955 - 1957, built at the same time as the 600/800 series. These are row crop (tricycle) versions. Same engines as 600/800.

601/801: 1958 - 1962: Basically the same as 600/800 but with some appearance changes and additional features available. Diesel engine became available. Power steering became more common. 601 called Workmaster, 801 called Powermaster.

701/901: 1958 - 1962, row crop versions of above. 701 also called Workmaster, 801 also called Powermaster.

The 600, 700, 800, 900 series had several different models available within each series (ie, 640 650 860 960 etc). Same with the "x01" series.

You can click the link below for more info (with photos!)

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onefarmer

08-22-2007 08:48:06




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 Re: Do I Have a power master? in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 07:54:36  
Classic view how to post pics can be seen.....



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roscoepm

08-22-2007 11:30:45




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 Pictures in reply to onefarmer, 08-22-2007 08:48:06  
Here is a picture. It use to be red. I found a number on the block on the fuel pump side # B9NN6015B.I couldn't find the number by the starter. Thanks



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roscoepm

08-22-2007 11:32:05




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 Re: Pictures in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 11:30:45  
Another picture



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roscoepm

08-22-2007 11:33:15




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 Re: Pictures in reply to roscoepm, 08-22-2007 11:32:05  
Another picture



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