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Dave from MN

08-10-2007 12:02:02




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Talking about gas with the kids, trying to explain to them how the current ethanol boom is actually increasing the demand for oil( my opinion- save your bashing), and the discussion led to where oil comes from. Well, leave it up to the 7 year old that just lost a tooth to ask, "when they suck out the oil, what happens to the space that the oil was, do's it grow new oil like my tooth, or does it leave a pocket in my world" I couldnt answer him, can any of you?

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JoeBob/IN

08-11-2007 08:26:53




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 Re: OT, kids stumped me in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2007 12:02:02  
How are we using more oil with the increase of ethanol?



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jamesinok

08-10-2007 14:29:39




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 Re: OT, kids stumped me in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2007 12:02:02  
Here in the southwest, they will use one or two salt water injection wells to get rid of the salt water that is pumped with the oil. as they pump the salt water into the injection wells, forces more oil to the other wells pumping in area. How close they are together depends on the oil producing sands and the depth. A long time ago the oil companies would dump the salt watere on roads to keep dust down. That caused all kinds of problems for crops and livestock, so that is against law now.

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Janicholson

08-10-2007 12:36:28




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 Re: OT, kids stumped me in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2007 12:02:02  
In some locations, Subsidance happens (the earth surface lowers to take up the space) In others water (both fresh, and brine) can fill the space remaining. TOday research is being conducted toward pressurizing the zone by pumping CO2 down the hole. This reduces the emissions of CO2 drastically, but also takes energy and causes more to be used to compress/pump. Also the oilwell sites are not in the same location as the coal based plants making the CO2. Interesting, but it may be just a stop gap method for sequestering CO2, while we switch to other energy distribution and production methods that do not use fossil fuels. JimN

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nballen

08-10-2007 12:08:56




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 Re: OT, kids stumped me in reply to Dave from MN, 08-10-2007 12:02:02  
From various news / etc type sources, I have heard that sea water can / is pumped into the well to displace oil - So there is a "pocket", but it's full.

I've recently heard of research laboratory activity to synthesize crude oil from vegetable / organic matter...I'll try to do some poking around and see what I can find.

Nathaniel



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