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O/T Spark plugs

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Sean Feeney 2

08-10-2007 07:54:59




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I have a check engine light on 1998 Ford Expedition unfortunately it’s the problematic #3 cylinder on a 4.6 motor. So I decide to go for plugs and wires to start, NAPA web site have over 20 different plugs available Platinum, double Platinum, and Iridium at $12 dollars a piece. Has any one bought these? How much better are they? If I where to travel across ocean or to the Antarctic I would want the so called best or at least the most expensive? Ford claims to change plugs at 100k miles. If you wait to long the plug and aluminum head just about become one, and it you ruin it, big money fix. So maybe if Iridium plugs last forever it would be worth it I guess? Or it’s a marketing deal when I grew up there where about 3 different types of cereals Flakes, puffs or sugar flakes now they have a whole aisle.

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Jerry/MT

08-10-2007 14:12:30




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
make sure that if you replace the plugs yurself, you use a high temperature anti-sieze compund on them. You will be able to remove them without damaging the threads.



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Gerald J.

08-10-2007 13:48:15




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
I have a '98 F-150 with the 4.6 engine. I can only see the tops of the plug connectors for the right bank. The left bank is hidden behind the left bank injector plumbing. Ford garage charges 1.6 hours labor to change the plugs and about $10 a plug for the Motorcraft plugs. Wires get another 0.8 hours charge even though they have to come off for plug changes. The plugs are several inches deep inside the rocker covers from the visible plug connectors. You need a really good socket that won't drop the plugs and that will not let them get cross threaded.

Oh yeah, that rear plug on the right side is about two feet back under the cowl and that much further back than my arms are long.

The factory original plugs were different for each bank having platinum only on one side of the gap but on different sides because the coils fire one bank with the opposite spark polarity of the other bank. The shop manual says replacement plugs with platinum on both sides is just fine and Ford garages only stock that one kind.

Its the larger Triton engines that mostly have the problem with spitting out plugs but aluminum heads and plugs kept in for many years can be a problem with stripped threads.

Ford admits the plugs can need to be replaced at 75K miles if the engine is driven hard.

The Ford garage thought the check engine light came from a contaminated mass air flow sensor and a slow to react exhaust gas oxygen sensor. I wanted a new serpentine belt, plugs, and wires. The total cost was around $1K. Runs fine now, no check engine lights, no running lean.

Gerald J.

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Lanse

08-10-2007 12:46:32




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
I dont know a thing about em'. All I know is that I use Champian plugs, thats what the autop parts place sells me and they work fine in my mowers.



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Dave in GA

08-10-2007 10:36:47




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
I've been using the cheaper Bosch plugs in my 3 Suburbans for the last few years and the 350s have run great with them. I change them out every May or June.



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02XLT4X4

08-10-2007 10:47:10




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Dave in GA, 08-10-2007 10:36:47  
I haven't tried it but I have heard that the Modular Ford engines don't get along too well with Bosch plugs.



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dhermesc

08-10-2007 11:42:42




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to 02XLT4X4, 08-10-2007 10:47:10  
X2

Bosch plugs do not belong in the Ford modular engines. I learned the hard way and so have several other people.

Do not get caught up in the hype of their 2 or 4 point platnum plugs, a case of marketing over engineering.



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02XLT4X4

08-10-2007 09:52:24




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
I would run either Autolite or Motorcraft plugs, they are a good plug with a decent price made at the same plant.



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dhermesc

08-10-2007 09:01:11




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
What ever you do, don't use Bosch plugs. Most people have the best luck with Autolite copper plugs.

Does your 1998 have Coil on plug? Here's the instructions on how to change.

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You must use a torque wrench when changing these plugs no matter what type of plug wire. The aluminum heads will strip the threads and you won't even know it until you blow the plug out the hole a mile from home.


For ideas on what plugs to use look here:

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The mechanics I've talked to say the manufacturer's recommended plug is usually the best for a 4.6/5.4. If you have problems with misfires after installing the new plugs the problem is usually in the ignition system and the best, most exotic, most expensive plugs in the world won't cure it.

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Walt Davies

08-10-2007 08:01:54




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 Re: O/T Spark plugs in reply to Sean Feeney 2, 08-10-2007 07:54:59  
I put over 140,000 on a set of Platinum plugs in Samaria sold it with the plugs still in it going strong.

Go for the best and forget changing them in the long run they are a lot cheaper.
Walt



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