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How to fill Propane Tanks?

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WesleyC

07-27-2007 07:22:18




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How do you re-fuel a propane tractor? I'm thinking about buying one, and I can't really turn up much on any searches. I found one place saying they refilled it from a wet-line from their tank (that heats the house I'm guessing).

Can you refill it some other way until you get a propane tank on your land? Can I buy a tank of propane and bring it home and fill the tractor up with it? Thanks!




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John A.

07-27-2007 23:03:43




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to WesleyC, 07-27-2007 07:22:18  
Wesley, I have read all the comments and no one has answered your question, How to fill a tank? It does not matter if that tank is on a tractor, Pickup or the tank for your BBQ grill it is all the same!
You will need a "Nurse Tank" it can be the tank that you heat your home from or a free standing tank just holding the LP for later use just like you DSL Tank over by the barn where you fill your DSL Tractor. Now, that tank will need a "wet line" that your filler hose will connect to, or you can use an "Unloading Valve" to put on top of the christmas tree valve on the nurse tank, the same spot where the LP truck hooks up to when that tank is being filled from the delivery truck.
hook up the hose to you wet line on the nurse (tank 1) then hook it up on the tank to be filled (tank 2). Open the valve on tank 2 then open the valve on tank 1. Now open the "bleeder valve on tank2" on big tanks like tractors or pickup tank it is the smaller version of the fill port on those tanks. On tanks for your BBQ it it is the screw driver head on the valve. That valve when opened will drop the pressure in tank 2 so the LP in tank 1 will flow to it. When tank 2 is full close the bleeder valve on tank 2, then close the main valves on tank 1 and Nurse tank remove the hose and off you go that is a short version of what you are asking.
Now if you buy an LP tractor, you will need a fast fill for when you run out of LP away from home. Scrounge up an old style BBQ tank it can be filled yourself, to use as a quick fill to get home to your big nurse tank. just hook up the old BBQ tank and a short length of hose to a bleeder then screw on the bleeder valve, turn BBQ tank upside down, when you don't feel the LP going through the hose. Close the valve on the BBQ tank, unscrew the Bleeder and there you are 5 gal of LP in you tank now you can now get home. Hope this helps!
Later,
John A.
PS I have personally pissed off more LP by reliveing pressure off my hose than most will ever use. that was When LP was $.35 cents/gal 4 pickups on LP over 150000k miles on each and countless tractors.
just think through what you are doing, do not leave any open valves where LP can get away from you. There will always be a little that escapes between the valves at tank 2 when you take the fill hose off that is normal, but a hudge rush of LP will indicate you have left something open. Again Just be careful, ask questions, do not get in a storm.
John A.

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Unclemerle

07-27-2007 18:42:05




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to WesleyC, 07-27-2007 07:22:18  
Westley

When you have your house tank filled have the driver fill the tractor. You probably won't use that much and in the winter he will be on your yard several times. You can fill it off the liquid valve on your house tank but need to know what you are doing. If you don't know what you are doing you can goof things up pretty fast and it is unforgiving. How do I know this I'm the guy that fills your tank.

Merle

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Ryan - WI

07-27-2007 10:01:28




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to WesleyC, 07-27-2007 07:22:18  
If you do decide to fill it up via a BBQ tank, which can be done, make sure you hold the BBQ tank upside down. The grill runs off the vapor and you want to get as much liquid as possible. That is the reason you need a wet line in a big tank as you can't flip it over to get the liquid. The tractor will run on vapor though, just not as long.



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Keith-OR

07-27-2007 11:08:30




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to Ryan - WI, 07-27-2007 10:01:28  
Ryan, with the new Fed. approved propane tanks, you can't turn tank upside down anymore to get liquid out. New tank has a float inside to prevent liquid from escaping...

One of "them" new laws to protect us from ourselves...:>(

Keith & Shawn



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Allan In NE

07-27-2007 07:26:58




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to WesleyC, 07-27-2007 07:22:18  
Sure.

All ya need is that nurse hose. Back when propane was cheap I used to run a lot of 'em, especially on the irrigation pumps. Think I had 6 wells on propane at one time there.

The pumps worked okay as they were permanently plumbed. Had my pickup on it too and it got old real fast having to "couple up" that darned hose to fill.

Allan



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Chad Franke

07-27-2007 07:40:38




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to Allan In NE, 07-27-2007 07:26:58  
When propane WAS cheap? Heck, with propane at under $2 per gallon and gas at over $3, I'm getting my Dad's old 80 Chevy running and putting the old propane kit on it...

For Wesley, if you don't currently have a big propane tank, you can buy or rent one from the propane company, or find a farm sale. Make sure you find a propane company that will also sell you the nurse line. Be there when they set the tank and ask the delivery guy if he can walk you through the refilling procedure, most are good guys if you go to a local company (not a Farrel Gas or big place like that). You can rig something up to fill out of a BBQ size tank, but you won't get much into the tractor tank, that used to be done to get an empty tractor back to a tank... If you aren't using it much, have a propane company fill the tank on the tractor, just watch out for delivery fees...

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mike46

07-27-2007 17:32:01




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to Chad Franke, 07-27-2007 07:40:38  
Chad, you better do some checking on your gas mileage. If propane is 2/3 or even 1/2 the cost of gasoline, remember that the BTU content of propane is much less than that of gasoline, hence lower gas mileage. Usually, propane vehicle drivers exaggerate their mileage to convince themselves that it is cheaper, but when you consider the cost of converting and then the reduction in mileage, well, it just isn't done anymore because it's just not worth it.

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Owen Aaland

07-27-2007 19:25:22




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 Re: How to fill Propane Tanks? in reply to mike46, 07-27-2007 17:32:01  
Propane has about 80 percent of the BTUs compared to gasoline. If you get 10 MPG on gasoline you should be getting about 8 MPG on propane.

Propane works well for fleets that are returned to a home base often enough that they can always be fueled there. Buying propane on the road can be a real pain and you will not be saving much over gasoline.

The trucks I service are converted from gasoline when they are new. Cost of conversion is about $5500. Cost savings pay for the conversion in 18 to 24 momths. Trucks are kept five to six years or about 150,000 miles. Oil changes are at 6000 miles rather than 3000 miles. They are also getting propane delivered with road taxes paid cheaper than I can get it for heating fuel. You can get a good price if your smallest order is a million gallons.

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