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Lanse

07-24-2007 10:24:41

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I saw in the classifides, there is a H that is not running and not stuck. If I found one of these in my area, what could probally be wrong with it?

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New Holland Tech

07-24-2007 19:11:39

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

Not running but not seized? Best situation I've had like that was my 1952 John Deere A. I changed the engine oil and filter, put in a new battery, away she went. Worst I've had was my Ferguson TEA20. Engine was run for a while with a blown head gasket, crank was grooved, block was cracked in several places, leaking wheel seal, and the list goes on...

So, what I'm saying, is it could be anywhere in between. You can't tell until you get into it.

Lyndon

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Walt Davies

07-24-2007 17:59:16

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

Than you could luck out like we did and find rare Cockshutt Blackhawk 35. It was given to us not running, we cleaned the fuel tank put in fresh fuel, points, plugs and wires and corrected the two that were crossed and it fired on the very first pop. Been running great every since.
But then you could buy a real lemon that looks good but is completely worn out from the front wheels to the back. it a real crap shoot with these old tractors.
Walt

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nebobcat

07-24-2007 13:17:18

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

makein it go fun makein it stop important (do the math)

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john d

07-24-2007 12:36:31

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

For every old non-running tractor that you can find and get running with a simple and cheap fix, there are dozens that won't be simple OR cheap to get running again.

You might be fortunate enough to get one for a few hundred dollars that you can get into running, safe, dependable condition for a few hundred more. If you take your time, you can likely find what you want in running condition for no more $$ than you'll pay to fix one up.

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noncompos

07-24-2007 12:23:26

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

Lanse, with all due respect, there really isn't any way to tell until you start working on it. As others have said, it could be something quite simple or something very expensive. The first questions to ask are:
1: how long has it been down?
2: why was it parked or towed to where it is?
3: can you trust the answers?
4: if it's something simple, why hasn't the owner fixed it/had it fixed, so he can get a much better price for a running unit?
5: if you buy it not running, and it turns out to be something major (there's the trans and diff to consider) how many $$$ will you lose??
None of which means it might not be a good buy, or that the seller won't be 100% truthful; it's just that it's better to be safe than sorry.

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Lanse

07-24-2007 13:24:10

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Re: What do you think in reply to noncompos, 07-24-2007 12:23:26

Around here, the person who owned the tractor is not alive in many cases. There are alot of non-functioning small farms here, and you buy the tractor from someone tired of looking at it after dad or gramps left it in the barn in who knows when. They dont know why its there, how old it is, what it is...etc.

one of my friends told me he was looking for a restoration project to do with his dad, and they put up flyers around looking for a spsific model. I think an Allis B (for some reason :- )
and had no luck. Then he put up flyers with pictures and within a couple weeks an old widow called about her husbands tractor. She sold it for $200 and they got the implements and an old garden tractor (all of which at a neighbors barn). They sold the old bush hog that diddnt work for whatever reason for $50 and the mower for $100 and the tractor is fully restored now.

This is another thing I'd post a picture of if I knew how....(this is the part where I hope for a basic answer)

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john cub owner

07-24-2007 10:27:55

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:24:41

most likely points, condenser, or coil. samething applies if it is mag or distributor. next is dirty carb, such as rust in tank, etc.

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Lanse

07-24-2007 10:29:36

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Re: What do you think in reply to john cub owner, 07-24-2007 10:27:55

So youre saying if I found one like that, to clean the path of the fuel?

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Walt Davies

07-24-2007 11:17:41

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 10:29:36

NO! he is saying it could be many many things. you will have to start with the basics and work your way though the tractor to find the problem. If you have little or no experience as a mechanic then find someone to do it for you. Its not a job for a beginner.

Walt

PS we can only advice here we don't have the time to make you an expert mechanic from scratch that will take years of practice and schooling.

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Lanse

07-24-2007 11:30:48

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Re: What do you think in reply to Walt Davies, 07-24-2007 11:17:41

Im not claiming to know it all, just playing a senario here!

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671DKS

07-24-2007 11:51:33

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Re: What do you think in reply to Lanse, 07-24-2007 11:30:48

FSO, fuel, spark, oxogen. with out those three working, you have nothing at all. But...after those things it could litterally be a thousand other leading to them or away from. Best thing to do is see if new fuel is flowing through the carb, see if you get a real good(blue) spark at the plugs, and make sure the intake is not clogged. good luck, Kent

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