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O/T Painting Aluminum

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37 chief

07-01-2007 12:49:15




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I need to paint a aluminum gate. Has anyone had any experience on how to prep the alum? What is a good primer, and top coat? thanks stan




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MarkB_MI

07-02-2007 04:18:44




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
Why not just leave the gate unpainted? Putting a finish on aluminum that will hold up is a lot of aggravation. For the best possible corrosion resistance, you need to clean, etch, alodine and prime the metal prior to applying a topcoat. Alodine is nasty stuff, you can simplify the process if you use a self-etching primer. I suggest that you go to an automotive paint store and use whatever they suggest.

Here's how I prep aircraft parts:

1. Clean the part using soap, water and Scotchbright. The part is clean when de-ionized rinse water runs off the part in sheets, rather than beading up.

2. While still wet, dip in Alumiprep 33, which is a phosphoric acid-based cleaner/etcher, for about 3 minutes

3. Rinse in de-ionized water.

4. Dip in Alodine 1201 for about five minutes.

5. Rinse in de-ionized water and dry.

6. Prime with epoxy or zinc chromate primer.

7. Finish with whatever topcoat you like.

Alodine and Alumiprep are trade names, most paint companies like PPG sell their own versions of these products.

The problem with aluminum is that it starts to oxidize the instant bare metal is exposed to air. This oxidation is what protects it from further corrosion, but it also prevents paint from sticking. Hence the need to etch and alodine, or to use a self-etching primer.

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dds-inc

07-01-2007 18:37:29




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
Whenever we used to paint those stupid sleeper doors on our 379 petes, we had to etch it real good and then sand it, prime it, and give it a good shot of paint.

PREP is the key. You need to etch it or the ALuminum will oxidize right under the paint.... probably WILL ANYWAY, someday!



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omahagreg

07-01-2007 16:44:23




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
I have had good luck with ISI's 'gripper' primer. It is very sticky to galvanized sheet metal and such, and I believe it would be good on aluminum too. Greg



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Leland

07-01-2007 14:03:42




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
Sears makes a paint called dura bond I have painted several jon boats with is and you have no prep work execpt removing flaking paint sticks to anything



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Curt from MN

07-01-2007 13:23:41




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
Mainly depends on how often you want to repaint. According to my outboard motor website you should use a "self etching" primer. Most outboards are made of aluminum for the weight savings and given the environment they tend to be used in, require special paints. One such contains zinc chromate, not really safe. Another brand may be SEM for general aluminum work. Also epoxy is available but requires spraying. Best to match the primer to the top coat manufacturer. Might also post to the paint and bodywork forum for better advice.

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flying belgian

07-01-2007 12:56:50




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 Re: O/T Painting Aluminum in reply to 37 chief, 07-01-2007 12:49:15  
There is a product called metel-prep. Not sure who makes it but you apply it and then wash it off with water. I have always been satisfied with Diamond Vogel paint.



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