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Allan In NE

05-26-2007 04:57:11




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LOL! This is funny.

We are kinda worried around here that we won't be able to scrape up enough hay to feed the critters this winter.

Wife actually would option buying a load of small square bales to use for the horses.

I told her we would sell that silly farm and every animal on it before I'll touch another small square bale.

She says I have an un-natural "fobia" against them. :>)

Allan

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dan hill

05-27-2007 02:33:13




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Square bales gave work to teenagers boys and girls alike.Girls usually drove the trucks or tractors pulling wagons but some girls could load hay just fine.The round balers killed the chance for kids to make some money.Every improvement in farm equipment put more farm workers out of work.I was working in a tv shop,business was slow and got laid off.Went across the road where a dairy farmer was baling hay and went to work.Never went back to the TV shop and ended up making more money working on 2 neighboring farms.Not much chance of doing this today.Kids that did farm work seemed to stay out of trouble,too tired to raise hell.Round bales have a lot of waste.Sheepman said he figured 10to15%.I used to buy a few round bales when pasture got poor.I noticed cattle seem to eat a lot more hay when round bales were fed.I had a bull that used to roll the bales around the pasture.I dumped them off the truck flat so they would stay put and the bull would stand them up and roll them thru the fence.Price of square bales are looking good these days.

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Eric SEI

05-26-2007 18:52:02




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
I can't argue with you about how much work small bales are, but I would still like to get a small baler. Most of the people who want to buy hay around here want it for 1 or 2 horses or for goats. Their John Deeres from Home Depot can't handle even the 4x4 round bales we make, so our sales are limited.



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Steven@AZ

05-26-2007 15:21:24




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
There is a reason they call them idiot cubes!



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730virgil

05-26-2007 15:04:16




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
those little bales are lots of work. i like feeding them though. they are nice to have in barn when it is too muddy or snow to deep to get around with tractor and loader to feed round bales. i bought some round bales yesterday as we need rain bad. my pasture is starting look like a lawn. last year the cows were belly deep in grass the first of june so i had neighbor leroy cut and bale it for me i got almost 400 bales of 45 lb. bales plus had 10 head running on it. that ain't going to happen this year. it was wet and cold at end of april guys were wondering when they could get in field to work the soil and plant. that turned around fast. did you guys in wi get any rain? local weatherman talked like rain was going north of us.

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Curt from MN

05-26-2007 15:00:57




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Guy I often get hay from has stopped running other crops. More money in hay. Course that may change with increase in ethonal. He hauls hay from SW MN to the Twin Cities area. All of the horse owners doing business with him want the small squares. Seems its cheaper for them not to have to buy the equipment needed to move the rounds. Given the market he deals in he has set up a "re-baling" process where he can take round bales and unwind them into a side discharge feeder wagon feeding them into a square baler for repackaging. Uses a skid-steer with an attachment to place 8 bales on the trailer at a time. To make ends meet he also does custom baling for others. Round, large square or small square if you want it he'll do it.

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BobHnwOh

05-26-2007 14:45:37




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
I luv to square bale with my NH 268 and D17D,I just drive the tractor and watch them young guys load the wagons,lol,Bob.



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Paul from MI

05-26-2007 13:17:13




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
I also made a lot of hay in small bales as a kid, don"t think it stunted my growth any (6-2 & 240#). Last year youngest kid talked me into getting out the old baler and baling some wheat straw. Spent all of one day on the knotters and made about 100 bales. It was kind of fun and good to feel that I could still do it at 63. Now I know he is going to want to do it again and that one 100 bale load is just about all we will need so it is not too bad. FUN, FUN !!
Paul

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hillbillyOH

05-26-2007 12:43:48




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
No wonder that colt of yours has such bad conformation, Allan -- it never gets a square meal! LOL.



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4010guy

05-26-2007 09:04:18




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Yep, I know just what you mean about them idiot cubes. My pa and I put hay in our pole barn for hard times (square bails of course) In about 1969 or 1970 as best i can remember and they are starting to settle and push out the sides of the ol barn so i been feeding them out,,,,, Now you understand that those little buggers went in with sweat but they are coming out with a JD grapple fork and getten dumped in bail feeders :o) Do you guys remember the song of the lazy farmer,,,,, ,,,Thatd be me all rite.

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Walt Davies

05-26-2007 08:23:50




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Being the youngest and the smallest boy on the Ranch in Loomis, CA ( I was 4' 10" and weighed 72 lbs) I still had to hold my own at hay time we went into Sacramento to get 3 wire 100 lb bales of Alfalfa 3 tons at a time on the 35 International Truck. Boy was that a load but that old truck never missed a beat hauling it home. We boys would ride up on top for the last half of the ride. I remember in the early days we had to take down the power line to the out building in front of the house to get under it.
I will say one thing even when I finally grew up I had a lot of strength in those thin arms, could arm wrestle guys twice my size.
YUP! there is nothing like growing up on a farm.
I just got 3 square balers ready for this season will cut and bale a lot of them little rascals at 40 to 80 lbs each. and hope to keep on doing it as long as I can. I'm 68 now will be 69 this summer.
Walt

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John A.

05-26-2007 07:59:21




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Allan, A buddy of mine who bales for the public down here bought a 1 yr old New Holland round baler last yr. It has a Knife attachment that allows the bale to be "sliced up" into big disk as little a 8in. wide! it allows one to have a small bale convience on a round bale package. Only thing is, one has to use Netwrap to package the bale
My questrion is could your baler be adapted to use this attachment. You could still put up rounds, and the Mrses get small bale convience. Just a thought! Hope all is well on the Nebraska Prairie. Later, John A.

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Dave_Id

05-26-2007 06:47:43




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
I had around 20 acres of hay I was selling for the horse owners. They wanted the square bales. That was a real pain, even with a bale wagon. I ended up selling my hay to a cattle farmer. I still mowed it, and he came in with his JD round baler. Perfect size 4x4 perfect bales. I never handled another bale of any size again.



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sd pete

05-26-2007 06:30:30




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
I havent touched one of those things in 25 years. And i am way to dern old to try them again.



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Rick in IA.

05-26-2007 06:20:25




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Morning Allan,

I know what you mean, after we got the round baler, wow what a difference !

Seems like the small square's need to handled about 4 times by the time their feed. Got a buddy calles em " Idiot Blocks " No offense meant George.

Rick



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georgeky

05-26-2007 07:24:51




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Rick in IA., 05-26-2007 06:20:25  
Rick, none taken, I roll the hay I feed myself, but the money is what put my square baler back to work. With the tobacco income shrinking I had to do something to make up the difference. Or go get a job again and I ain't to crazy about that plan. It has been working very well. There is a huge market for squares.



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Rick in IA.

05-26-2007 16:30:55




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to georgeky, 05-26-2007 07:24:51  
George,

Glad to hear you have a strong market you can take advantage of. Been thinking myself about growing more hay But got 100 bu. per acre of new crop corn sold for $3.65. Maybe next year.

Take care, Rick



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Allan In NE

05-26-2007 06:34:24




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Rick in IA., 05-26-2007 06:20:25  
I remember the first time I ever ran a round baler.

Stopped the tractor, got out, kneeled on the ground and gave thanks right there and then.

It's true. New Holland was sent to save me. :>)

Allan



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IaGary

05-26-2007 06:40:56




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 06:34:24  
When dad bought our first Gehl round baler, he said, You might as well learn how to run it not me, cause you don't need me to bale anymore.

How right he was. One man could do the work of 6 in one day.

And sit in an Air Conditioned cab to do it.

Call me soft but I ain't no dummy either.

Gary



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Dave from MN

05-26-2007 06:19:36




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Hey Allan, i think you should adopt a few of these orphaned teenagers, they could use a family like yours for good raising, farm life would be beneficial to them, and you'd have some help with your many adventures. Hey , I'm serious, me and the wife have considered addoing to the family, but I snipped, and she's to faithfull to mess around



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Billy NY

05-26-2007 06:19:27




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
You and probably a whole lot of others have a very similar affliction ragarding those things!

Seriously though, that is a real concern, and I guess now is really the time to deal with it, we know the feeling, hay has run short here too, but somewhere within reasonable proximity, available hay turns up most times, where you are, that must be a difficult problem if it runs out or you just don't get enough in due to the weather conditions.

Even with this affliction, why is it I'm tempted to go find ( and I know where there is one in your favorite color ) a decent baler, sickle or conditioner and a rake. I've got just enough to make it worth while and if I were to have the corn switched out to hay grasses..... . could get 1500 or so, I remember the numbers off the baler counter for these fields from years ago.

I can't stand looking at this small field I've mowed and fooled with, it could have been easily baled this week, and the other week previous, yield would have been less, quality excellent, with 2 more cuttings of the same, the weather has been perfect, I cut a little, turned it once, even with a darned sickle, like the old timers used, I could have gotten away with it. Just enough here to fool with a little, not like when I was a kid, but enough to fill a truck a few times for the other place, hate to see it go to waste, as the 6'-0" rotary will get it.

Last year this time, it rained the entire month, this was chest high, not so tall now.

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georgeky

05-26-2007 06:14:26




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Long as they are selling good I am going to keep right on baling them. For the last 3 or 4 years I have made more money selling hay to poor souls with to many plug horses than I have made from my tobacco. Even sold the cows off one farm I have leased and went to all hay on it. Mostly because of no fencing and couldn't get neighbors to build their part. I haven't had to go over there in the middle of the night and chase cows since.

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IaGary

05-26-2007 05:41:22




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 04:57:11  
Allan I must feel the same way about those little bales.

There is 3 to 4 thousand bales in the barn here.

I don't use them cause then I feel I would have to refill the barn.( kinda a reserve supply that I leave alone)

Use about 10 bales a year out of that barn. At that rate I should be dead before they are gone.

Gary



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Allan In NE

05-26-2007 05:47:12




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to IaGary, 05-26-2007 05:41:22  
Pretty sure it was our childhoods.

A 70 lb kid buckin' 90 lb bales will do that to ya. :>)

Allan



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Mr Bob

05-26-2007 06:01:26




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 05:47:12  
I handled thousands of small square bales from my teens thru young adulthood. Never hurt me any. I'm now 62 yo and can "arm press" my own weight(275#) 15-20 repetitions on a weight machine. If I still had some ground, I'd likely still be making some of them to sell.



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Allan In NE

05-26-2007 06:19:21




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Mr Bob, 05-26-2007 06:01:26  
For sure, for sure.

I've always been blessed with a lot of strength too.

Probably because of those years on the end of a spud fork, pitch fork and tater sacks. :>)

Allan



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Mr Bob

05-26-2007 12:39:21




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 06:19:21  
I've never handled the taters, but along with the square bales, I've toted, loaded and unloaded many 10 gallon milk cans. I still cut and split my own firewood, about 10-12 chords per season. I split with a 16# maul. I'm only badly limited because of both knees being very arthritic and cause lots of pain and awkwardness. I suppose carrying my body weight on only a 5-10 frame don't help either, but I'm in love with food. shame, shame.

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IaGary

05-26-2007 05:59:47




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to Allan In NE, 05-26-2007 05:47:12  
You got that right Allan.

Dad customed baled for about 6 neighbors here.

From the time I could stay on the rack I would help load.

At the age of 14 I was on the rack myself all summer long.

I got 2 cents a bale to load um.

Every 4th load dad would load to give me a break and I drove.

Did 30,000 bales that year. So I made $600 dollars. WOW

Gary



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Allan In NE

05-26-2007 06:07:41




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 Re: Silly Woman! in reply to IaGary, 05-26-2007 05:59:47  
That's why yer built like a Holstein bull today. :>)

Allan



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