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Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushing

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Kajun

05-24-2007 07:22:08




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Folks:
Been to archives and can't find. Recently, somewhere on this site someone posted about necessity to clean metal with a solvent after power wire brushing and before painting. Can't find and can't remember. What solvent is reccommended under those circumstances?




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Kajun

05-25-2007 13:08:52




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
Gents:

Thanks for the further help.



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Mike M

05-25-2007 06:35:30




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
I scrubbed alot of them down with mineral spirts or stoddard solvent.



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PaulW_NJ

05-24-2007 19:48:05




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
May have been my post. I"ve found wirebrushing really burnishes the old paint/dirt/oils residue onto the metal. Using body shop supply quickclean solvent (toluene, zylene, mixture)on a series of paper towels or rags will amaze you how dirty the brushed surface is. Tough on the hands and lungs, so wear protection. After a few wipes the towels will get less residue and you"ll know when you can stop. Just like getting a good gasket seal, you need to remove the crud for the primer to get good hold.

I let the dirty towels lie out in the sun to dry for a few hours because they may spontaneously combust if thrown together into a garbage can.

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Midwest redneck

05-24-2007 13:40:02




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
What I use a lot is Denatured alh. I use this for cleaning off aluminum before anodize and I have used it for cleaning off steel machine details for painting and or black oxiding.



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Kajun

05-24-2007 10:40:10




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
Gents:

Thanks for the help.



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Redshoes

05-24-2007 09:11:58




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
P.P.G. doesn't recommend use of metal cleaner (acid) on sandblasted cast iron. Acid seems to aggressivly attack the open surface, leaving behind a powdery dusty coating that is hard to remove even with wax and grease remover. Any dust left behind and primed or painted over could cause a paint failure. Dont know about wire brushing, but if the cast is opened, would think that effect would be the same. Acid or metal cleaner (No.579) should be used on any sheet metal, followed by a water rinse, dry, and a wax and grease remover, dry, then a rust inhibitive primer.

Lacquer thinner can remove grease and oil but also has a chance of lifting or curling the edges of any of the old finish causing further paint problems. Thinner always was a dangerous product and nowadays is real expensive. Bodyshop owner from 1968 using only PPG Products. Tractor restorer since 2002. Other good paint manufacturers too, and jobber can supply you with a refinish schedule.

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Steven@AZ

05-24-2007 08:45:04




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
I always use a wax and grease remover solvent from the paint shop.



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Ken Crisman

05-24-2007 08:14:56




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
The best prep for painting is to use metal conditioner on your wire brushed & ground areas . Let it sit a spell so it'll work on the embedded rust eyes can't see . Then wipe off with hot water on a rag than blow dry immediately . Its best to wear rubber gloves using it this chemical . I then wipe clean metal off with Prep Sol which takes any oily film off so paint will adhere .I had an autobody shop years ago so I still use what I learned on my tractors . I hope I've helped . God bless, Ken

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MLD

05-24-2007 08:01:52




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 Re: Cleaning with solvent after power wire brushin in reply to Kajun, 05-24-2007 07:22:08  
May not be professional, but I've always just blown it off with air & wiped down with laquer thinner to remove any oil or grease residue.



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