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Woodchucks' Last Meal

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Glenn FitzGeral

05-08-2007 16:04:35




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About a year ago I remember a thread about a snack recepie for killing vermin around the buildings. I believe it was fly bait and Coca-Cola. Could someone please confirm that for me. What was the ratio?

A friend of mine has a woodchuck undermining his concrete garage floor. He's goin' right at it but is rarely seen.


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Glenn F.




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Don-Wi

05-08-2007 23:47:27




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 05-08-2007 16:04:35  
That might have been me last year, we were using it on coons. I'd have to guess maybe 1 cup of fly sugar to about 1-2 pints of coke. I've heard some say any soda will work, but they guy that gave us the secret tested a whole bunch of different types and brands and said coke was the absulute best at it. I can't say if woodchuck's would drink it or not.

Donovan from Wisconsin

BTW- I know it's not the most humane way to do it but it's the only choice we have short of live trapping them and then popping them off, which we don't really have time to check them every day.

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Billy NY

05-08-2007 16:59:37




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Glenn FitzGerald, 05-08-2007 16:04:35  
Not to start a debate about dealing with woodchucks and other vermin, but that poison is really a nasty thing to do to any critter, enough said on that and no I ain't no tree-huggin greenie either !

They can make holes that horses break their legs in and some other mischief, we used to carefully shoot them, more humane way to kill em if you have to and you can get a shot. They keep coming back, and after studying them a bit, I stopped shooting them for the most part, horses were gone anyway and when one was in the garden, crosshairs would be upon them, but after watching one year, saw he was doing the weeding ! Usually I'd just shoot, and still would if necessary.

Sometimes they do have to go, but one year the strangest thing happened, you know how timid they are, well this guy decided to make a burrow under the porch, and I have caught them with gloves on, just have to get between them and the hole, I got between him and the porch, he went up a pine tree in the yard, about face level, I could have grabbed him, he was a young one, but I just stared him down a bit and left him alone, soon after, he became a very friendly little neighbor, he seemed to like the fresh dinner rolls from the bakery, so I made friends with him, and for 8 years, in the morning or evening he'd come out for a visit, eat out of your hand, climb half way up onto your lap. In that time, the stories I could tell you, yes he used to grab tomatoes from the garden til I fenced it off, tried to take a broom down into the hole, like he was going to clean up or something and even would stand on the porch looking at the door with his arms crossed, like where's the food buddy. You could set your clock by him. He even brought the wife and kids over once, they were curious, but not like him. He also used to make his rounds to all the other holes. I'm up on a hill that was a pasture, hay field etc, so you can see the various holes, could always recognize him, was missing a finger, probably from the brawl under the porch, another one tried to move in on his turf one evening ! Growling and dirt flyin etc. He was a cool little guy and he started coming around right after I had to put my best dog down, myself, on a sunday afternoon, no choice, was working out of town during the week, and as corny as it sounds that little guy took up some of the empty space, when Biggie left. I got some great photos and not so good video, but if I had shot him like so many before him, I'd have no story to tell, and no memories like these and for a few tomatoes and a lot of rolls. "Woody" was always a neat little guy that would think nothing of hangin out on the porch with ya. This is the first year I have not seen him, I don't think he'll be back, as he'd be about 8-9 years now, they don't live much longer than that.

Here's Woody:

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2x4

05-08-2007 22:16:18




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Billy NY, 05-08-2007 16:59:37  
my grandpa had "old joe" who came down to the house to become a pet. Grandpa had killed 100's of them but retired from farming & mellowed out by the time joe came. Joe loved orange popsicles & would eat one just like a kid. Great-grandchildren have many pics of Joe chowing down on a popsicle, holding it with both hands.



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Kestrel CT

05-08-2007 17:51:35




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Billy NY, 05-08-2007 16:59:37  
That's a great story ! I had no idea woodchucks were capable of such behavior. I think the spirit of your departed pet found its way into Woody. Funny things happen when wild animals acknowledge us. Not exactly like your story, but I live trapped and transferred over 300 mice last winter from my attic. I figured it was more sanitary than a mass killing.

As I daily emptied the traps over three months, my rage and anger at them kinda' mellowed to the point where I said hey, the darn things just want to live, so I released 'em all down the road with a full belly of peanuts. I felt better, especially when I found and sealed off their entrance point.

Also funny how my neighbor is having such a mouse infestation this spring. He had 40 living in his shiny new Kabota alone. Oh well...

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Billy NY

05-09-2007 06:45:10




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Kestrel CT, 05-08-2007 17:51:35  
This guy was certainly unique, it took a long time for me to trust him, those chompers sure could do some damage to your fingers.

I thought the same thing about the dog, strange coincidence, although a lot of critters come around when there is no dog, this guy was just a little different, sprawled out on the porch like he owned the place, and that thing with the broom, I'll never figure that one out, he's on one end and I'm on the other, hey bud, it ain't gonna fit down the hole, and what exactly would he do with a broom anyway ?

Mice can be a pain, I don't use the poison, hate seeing them run around in circles, then they die in bad places, likle my tool box or work bench ! Then they stink etc. Traps, live ones or not, I've caught a great many live too, but you do have to let em go far away. I try to be fair to the critters, the darned mice have chewed my phone lines in the basement, and a few other odds and ends, chipmunks and squirrels are abundant, but don't cause much trouble. There is a certain line, that if crossed, action is needed, but for the most part, keeping a place clean, clutter free, helps quite a bit.

Thing is you have to eliminate places they like to live, clutter, junk and debris in the yard become five star hotels for em, there is a cat that patrols around the yard lately, and I've trapped the heck out of them at the right times and kept the breeding cycle down, you do what you can, can't let em get the upper hand, then it's a real problem.

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Uncle Ernie

05-08-2007 22:12:08




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Kestrel CT, 05-08-2007 17:51:35  
Live trapping mice.Huh. You probably caught one mouse three hundred times!LOL



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James Jackson

05-08-2007 17:15:22




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Billy NY, 05-08-2007 16:59:37  
Great pic Billy NY Thanks for sharing it with us . I"ve noticed , like you , even way down-out here in "The Tropical Rainforest of Far North Queensland , Australia - that if I don"t shoot/pioson the local inhabitants they are alright to share our 14 acres with . Good one , Billy I"m with you . james on PILILANI Property



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Billy NY

05-09-2007 06:51:48




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to James Jackson, 05-08-2007 17:15:22  
Sometimes it's a little extra work, and others you have no choice, they have to go, but for the most part, I just leave em be as much as possible, like I said above, eliminating places where they can live too close, get rid of things that draw em in, food sources, especially close to where your home or outbuildings are, does help quite a bit. Sealing up places where they can get in etc etc. it does help, we used to have some serious problems here, with mice, and most of it was due to things like mentioned above, made big diffence when things were cleaned up.

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Ludwig

05-09-2007 07:25:49




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 Re: Woodchucks' Last Meal in reply to Billy NY, 05-09-2007 06:51:48  
We've had trouble at camp with porquipines, they get under the camp and chew on the beams. No amount of fenceing them out seems to work, they keep coming back. Finally a little 20ga enema seemed to fix the issue. Had to take out the whole family though 4 in all.
Had to shoot a few groundhogs too, the interesting thing there is we'll shoot a groundhog and all the rabbits in the area come for the funeral. I dunno if the rabbits don't like 'em but they'll all gather round and check out the corpse.

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