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hay

05-03-2007 05:17:42




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going to town yesterday i saw one gas ad for 2.71/gal for regular unleaded. less than 1 mile from that first station was another sign advertising gas for 2.89/gal. now this is less than 1 mile! what gives with this? most of the other stations into town varies from 2.84 to 2.89 with one at 2.91/gal. too much variance in pricing. two stations (major name brand) on opposing corners were 2.79/gal and 2.87/gal and both were packed with customers.

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wdTom

05-03-2007 17:45:15




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
Now I don't like $3.00 a gallon anymore than anyone else, however lets look at it another way. When I was a kid and got a job on the farm I got $1.50 for driving tractor. This was in the early 60s. People told me that was "great pay for a kid, as much as a lot adults made". Well you could buy about 6 gallons for that at that time. Well now good pay is $15 to 20, about 6 gallons again. It is roughly the same, 6 gallons for an hours pay. I still don't like $3 gas though.

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720D

05-03-2007 15:49:39




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
We arn't running out of oil. all you people that think we are the oil analyst and oil companys have got to you guys. They been saying we are going to run out of oil since back in 1874.



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-04-2007 04:51:05




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 Re: gas price game in reply to 720D, 05-03-2007 15:49:39  
Tell me this, 720: Do you honestly think there is an infinite supply of oil? If you don't, and you shouldn't, then you admit that we will run out someday, right? So do we just continue on a mad consumtion spree and say that we'll just let future generations worry about it? Or do we take advantage of the technology and alternative fuels available to conserve oil as best we can? I worry that my children and/or grandchildren will look back on our generation with disgust, because of the rather obviously selfish and short-sighted views of a seemingly majority of people.

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Howard H.

05-03-2007 17:18:23




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 Re: gas price game in reply to 720D, 05-03-2007 15:49:39  

Yeah, there were 5 of them oil analysts in my office yesterday trying to convince me of that very thing...

I asked them what about those piles of abandoned pumpjacks and storage tanks out at the Griggs Field, and they said that was just part of the plot to fool everyone...

Actually as soon as gasoline hits $5/gallon, they are going to turn on the new pipeline from planet Krypton...

HH



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BobHnwOh

05-03-2007 14:39:20




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
High Gas Prices,blame it on GLOBALISM!!!The rest of the world says the USA is not paying our fair share!!!!! !!!



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Dave from MN

05-03-2007 13:29:15




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
Use is the biggest issue. Reduce the demand. Drpooed off my daughters freind the other day. Her parents live 23 miles from their job. The Ma has a Big Ol Tahoe, decked out with big tires and the such. The ol Man has what I am pretty sure is a subarban. Both new, the each drive seperate, but work the same hours. They have 4 ATV's # snowmobliles and a boat.. a big boat. They have one child. Thier yard is at best, about the size of a 40x 60 shed. They have a big JD garden tractor 50" cut for sure. They travel with their toys every weekend. They are good people that are a prime example of Americans obsesion with living the high life, no matter the cost. Just think of the fuel they use in a month. Wasteful nation we are, we will some day pay for what we have been takingh for granted for so long

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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 14:29:04




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Dave from MN, 05-03-2007 13:29:15  
That's where you're wrong Dave. Our children will pay, not us.



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Dave from MN

05-03-2007 13:30:09




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 Typo's in reply to Dave from MN, 05-03-2007 13:29:15  
Whoops. I was typing and trying to eat lunch at the same time



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Bill in Colo

05-03-2007 13:00:33




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
I like the rest of you hate paying the price of fuel hiway fuel today which was 3.29.9.
But in defense of big oil, even with record profits their return on investment is modest compared to other industrial businesses. Truth is that Exxon-Mobil is the world largest company and if they didnt have the largest profit the stockholders would want the CEO fired.



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 12:52:30




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
I realized coming into this that you wouldn't like my comments. Let me start out by saying that I feel the pinch by these gasoline prices too. I commute at least 35 miles daily. I've given up driving my beloved 3/4 ton pickup everyday for a 99 model 4 cylinder Mazda car. BUT, I believe Gasoline prices obviously have been and remain to be too low! Just look at your local traffic and the vehicles it consists of. Last summer I thought for sure that I would see a difference in traffic and vehicle buying trends. Boy was I wrong. The SUV's and large pickup trucks remain on the road and in demand. Knowing the environmental problems that lie ahead, and the impending oil shortage...our habits need to change! For my children's sake, I hope the prices keep going up and eventually our bad habits may begin to change. So for now, I will shell out more money at the pump. If I can't afford the Mazda I will get me a scooter.

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midwest redneck

05-03-2007 13:05:49




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 Re: gas price game in reply to LamborghiniR904DT, 05-03-2007 12:52:30  
I think that you need medication to change your way of thinking. Gas prices are low which helps the economy, Right.....Dont be fooled there is plenty of crude oil. 25 years ago the oil execs tryed to get everyone to think that we would run out in 20 years, guess what the oil rigs are still pumping.



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Howard H.

05-03-2007 13:42:46




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 Re: gas price game in reply to midwest redneck, 05-03-2007 13:05:49  
I work for a paycheck just like most folks, but anyone that thinks the world is not running out of oil is simply not facing reality.

I don't know any more than anyone else if we'll run out in 10 years or 50, but it IS running out.

I can send you pictures of an oil field next to Dad's farm that was a perfect checkerboard of oil wells 20 years ago, since there was so much oil and gas there. ALL 5 of the huge gas compressor engines have been pulled because the gas production has gone to nothing and the only oil well still active there is the one they kept for salt water disposal to pour waste water back down.

There may be more oil fields to be discovered, but I and anyone out here in the Hugoton gas field (once known as the world's largest) can tell you that the oil fields ARE depleting.

Do you think oil is magically replenishing itself underground or something??

I've never understood the comments that "there is plenty of oil for years to come". What are you basing that statement on?? What possible evidence could you have for that?? Even the best geologists in the field are guessing...

I've watched the water wells get weaker and weaker year after year and some run dry! What makes you think oil wells are any different?? Wishful thinking??

Lambo is right on the mark. I thought exactly the same thing as he did last summer. Whether you consider cross-country trips in Excursions and Hummers or trips to the grocery store in a Suburban or F-350 wasteful or not is your opinion - but there are millions of people out there who still don't mind fueling those guzzlers up weekly!! And you are competing with every one of them at the gas pump because they are still willing to step up to the plate and pay the bill.

Oil companies couldn't charge what they are, if customers weren't willing to pay it.

That is reality.


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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 14:20:09




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Howard H., 05-03-2007 13:42:46  
Thank you, Howard. I thought for sure I'd be on my own here.



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 13:42:09




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 Re: gas price game in reply to midwest redneck, 05-03-2007 13:05:49  
Well, I've been in plenty of arguments, but this is the first for which I've received a precription for medication. Maybe you don't realize how long it takes the earth to make crude oil. We will run out some day. Maybe the exact date is debatable. But the simple fact of the matter is that if we don't reduce our rate of usage, then we will run out sooner rather than later.



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tired teacher

05-03-2007 10:04:02




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
Seems to me that a lot of farmers drove their tractors to DC the last time gas went out of sight and it made a statement. Has anyone thought of doing that again??



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Big Mike

05-03-2007 09:16:57




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
You guys are darn right it's too high! Hurts the little man, and the overall economy!!!!



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Heyseed

05-03-2007 08:20:11




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  

It IS a big rip-off... Oil companies are making record profits and getting benefits from our government in everything from lax regulations to tax breaks. The price per barrel goes up and overnight we pay more at the pump, the price per barrel goes down and after a month or so we pay a couple pennies less. They jack it up, jack it up jack it up and then when we start to complain too much it slides back down just a bit, stays at that level for a while then they start over. Each time we settle in at a higher price. The big oil companies also help control the media, nothing like the nightly news blabbing about prices going up to get every station in the area to jump in and raise their prices. Wish I could do that with my customers....and don"t even try to compare what we pay to what some other countries pay, it is like comparing what you pay for a pack of crackers at the campground store to what you can buy a case of them for at a Costco. sorry to rant but my fuel bill to get me from jobsite to jobsite is killing me, and NO I don"t drive a 4D full-size 4X4

Wish I could afford one though!! :-)

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the tractor vet

05-03-2007 09:03:54




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Heyseed, 05-03-2007 08:20:11  
Well that is BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO and today nobody can cut back . Also the fact that NOBODY STANDS TOGETHER . Them days are dead and gone . Back when there were the Independent Owners operators we tryed but everybody screamed bloddy murder because we started to shut this country down because of the risen fuel prices . Well the goverment beat up and now there are not enough to do anything and it is the fact that here agin NOBODY STANDS TOGETHER Not the farmers the truck drivers the factory workers . The days of the unions are also on the way out . It is BIG money that runs this country now and they don't give two hoots in He,ll,o if you serive . They don't care if if ya can't afford health care let lone your house payment or a gallon of fuel. This has been comming for a long time.

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bobia

05-03-2007 13:13:12




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  in reply to the tractor vet , 05-03-2007 09:03:54  
you have spoken the whole picture. We are in a world of one niness meaning we only care for ourselves. This has really caught on since the late 70.s. Afraid it won,t go away



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old

05-03-2007 08:15:25




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
Sounds like a good old fachion gas war there. Years ago you saw that happen till it got to the point all the stations where looseing money on gas just to try to sell the most. No matter how you look at it the price of gas right now is out of line. You figure gas companys have been makeing record profits for the last 5 plus years so they are the ones that sould be at blame for all this but there greedy. I still remember buying gas for $0.199 back in 1973 so you figure it out it has gone up way to much and inflation hasn't gone up near that much since 1973

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VADAVE

05-03-2007 08:50:12




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 Re: gas price game in reply to old, 05-03-2007 08:15:25  
Unfortunately we cannot blame the whole gas price increase on the oil companies--our governments (mostly local) have thought it was OK to increase their gas tax.
Believe me I also think the fuel prices are too high. The oil companies are clever and our politicans are greedy and we pay.



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old

05-03-2007 09:13:07




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 Re: gas price game in reply to VADAVE, 05-03-2007 08:50:12  
Ya we pay and for the most part they have use by the balls because they know we need gas to go places and they use that to keep the price going up. Its one of those thing that didn't happen years ago when the gov. had there hands in it and put price limits on gas but that also hurt the oil companys and thats part of why things are like they are now. So where had no matter what we do.



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 05:49:06




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
I know you guys don't want to hear this, but considering inflation, gasoline is cheap.



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Heyseed

05-03-2007 08:29:37




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 Re: gas price game in reply to LamborghiniR904DT, 05-03-2007 05:49:06  
If you figure that in 1974 a gallon of regular in Northern VA was 38 cents (Esso-Exxon) and now is at 3 dollars that is about an 800 percent increase. If that is OK then milk should be about 8 bucks a gallon



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 12:25:44




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Heyseed, 05-03-2007 08:29:37  
I will stick by my statement that gasoline is relatively cheap. Look at the inflation adjusted prices>Link
Oh,>Link and in comparison, we are not (or at least should not be) facing a milk shortage in the relatively near future.



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Dave from MN

05-03-2007 09:35:50




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Heyseed, 05-03-2007 08:29:37  
Hmm, you wait a few more years when all the small dairy farms are shut down, and there are only big, corperation dairy's , you WILL be paying $8.00 for a gallon of milk, when its on sale. Bigger is better mentality, has been and will continue, to divide this country. I Know I will never be a millionaire in the upper class. I could survive being a peasant, , but I just hope when I am old and broke, some millionaire will sponsor me and my family like they do for other countries poor.

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RustyFarmall

05-03-2007 06:55:58




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 Re: gas price game in reply to LamborghiniR904DT, 05-03-2007 05:49:06  
Lamborghini, apparently your income has increased along with inflation. Most of us are not that fortunate, and we all know that gasoline is just plain priced too high, and we also know there is no reason for it. The oil companies are even setting fire to their own refineries, just to create a shortage, which in turn gives them reason to raise prices once again.



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LamborghiniR904DT

05-03-2007 13:21:35




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 Re: gas price game in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-03-2007 06:55:58  
To be totally honest, my income has been increasing, but I hope you don't think I enjoy burning this kind of money through my car's tail pipe while the oil companies endure record profits! But, again it's supply and demand driven. Don't gripe about the big oil fat cats. Gripe at your friends and neighbors for helping keeping the demand so high.



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Bob Farrell

05-03-2007 08:07:01




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 Re: gas price game in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-03-2007 06:55:58  
Rusty Farmall -- I have been reading the YT Forum postings for quite some time now (seldom post). You are one of the posters, along with half-a-dozen others that I seek out because you normally are very informative. However, after reading your two posts regarding subject gasoline prices, I have concluded you are spouting off from emotion, rather than facts. If you truly want to get some facts on this subject you may want to read an article that appeared in USA Today. It's too long for me to post here, so go to>Link
Please>Link read, and re-read, try to understand with an open mind, and repost your opinion. Thanks. I am in no way trying to start anything. Our lives today are far too volatile to have people espousing non-factual BS.

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jack-iowa

05-03-2007 08:55:59




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Bob Farrell, 05-03-2007 08:07:01  
guess that is your problem,you are only reading old news,you must not of come up on the recent stuff where there prfits are outrageous.maybe in a few months or years you will be up to date.
only can take the news guys with a grain of salt ,have you actually witnessed a news story in person then see it on whatever and wow is that what happened??



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Howard H.

05-03-2007 09:31:55




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 Re: gas price game in reply to jack-iowa, 05-03-2007 08:55:59  

Well, if you mean the recent fire at the Valero plant near Dumas, TX, one of my friends was hurt in that...

He damn sure didn't plan it... For the folks that work there, none of them planned it.

I don't think the manager planned it... The parent company didn't want it to happen! That bites into their profits!! It was an accident.

I agree with Bob - that's like an individual farmer burning up his wheat field to drive prices up... Maybe it helps all the other wheat farmers a little bit, but NO ONE will volunteer to be the one that goes up in smoke!

Howard

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RustyFarmall

05-03-2007 08:35:31




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Bob Farrell, 05-03-2007 08:07:01  
I don't want to start anything either, but I do read all those articles, and I do watch the news on TV. The information that we are being fed is very seldom the whole truth. I do my best to take all of that "news" with a grain of salt, and also try to read "between the lines".



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Bob Farrell

05-03-2007 08:53:42




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 Re: gas price game in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-03-2007 08:35:31  
Read your latest post. It sounds as if you did not take the time or make the effort to read the article I referred you to. If that is true then I guess you have a closed mind and don't want other information or just "plain facts". You comment about the oil companies "setting their own refineries on fire" is rediculous. That would be akin to you putting fire to your corn field. Nonsense! Have a good day.

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RustyFarmall

05-03-2007 09:11:16




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Bob Farrell, 05-03-2007 08:53:42  
So, which one of the big oil companies do you work for?



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Ludwig

05-03-2007 10:20:53




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 Re: gas price game in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-03-2007 09:11:16  
Any time I get thinking there might be some kind of conspiracy going on I think back to 1972. If the president of the USA could cover up a 2 bit breakin by a bunch of bumbling idiots theres no way anyone could cover up:
Big oil burning its own refineries
Alien abduction
Elvis being alive
or anything else for that matter. After awhile the truth would come out. People would talk, they always do.

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Jiles

05-03-2007 05:37:25




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
How many times have you went through an intersection with two or more stations, and seen a difference in gas prices? One station may be 5 or 8 cents higher but there may be more cars at these stations then the lower price ones. My point ---As long as they sell gas for more profit they will. Customers have to control this!



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Ludwig

05-03-2007 10:10:27




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Jiles, 05-03-2007 05:37:25  
The station makes doodly on the gas, they want to lure you in to buy a soda or water or a lotto ticket or pack of smokes, THATS where they make their money. On the gas they make $0.03-$0.05/gal tops.



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Howard H.

05-03-2007 06:52:35




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Jiles, 05-03-2007 05:37:25  

Customers already are controlling it!

I took the kids on a 14 hour drive to St. Louis the other day - we were cruising along in my little Cougar at about 68mph (to save gas) most of the time.

I was continually getting blown off the road by Suburbans, Excursions, Hummers, 4 door duallies, even RV's pulling boats, you name it...

As long as so many people don't care how much they have to shell out for gas, the demand is always going to be there. And that's just Americans - just wait until folks in China and India get a taste of riding in cars and decide to ditch the bicycles and motorcycles...

A story on NPR radio the other day said gasoline in Great Britain was about $8/gallon. And my daughter just got back from over there - she said traffic was just as bad there as any US city... So my guess is, gasoline can at least double or triple in price before people start changing their habits enough to REALLY decrease demand...

Just my teaspoon of gasoline's worth,

Howard

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Ludwig

05-03-2007 10:09:22




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Howard H., 05-03-2007 06:52:35  
Yup, fleet economy (that is the economy of all the vehicles on the road averaged together) has slipped badly with the rise in popularity of SUVs and pickup trucks driven by people who don't really need them.

If you want gas prices to go down theres only one thing you as an average person can do, use less...
If everybody used less gas the price would come down.
Actually now that I think of it if everybody bought less junk from China/India (frankly if we all just bought a little less stuff) the price of oil would go down too...

Its ALL supply and demand. The problem is most people can't look at things in any more of a macro sense than themselves. Humans are pretty much by nature very selfish creatures... Think big picture for a second, folks in the USA (of which I am one) think we're real bigshots but we've got a teeny proportion of the world's population. India and China, they're big shots. China's economy grows at a rate that makes us look like nickel cigar makers... All those poor people in China have gotten a taste of our American lifestyles, they want 2 cars, cable tv, tv dinners and an ulcer too although some days I'm not sure why...

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bng9_2000

05-03-2007 05:34:06




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
What we need to do is quit buying from Exxon and Mobil until their prices drop down to $1.25/ gal. If we did this the rest of the oil co. would also come down.



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Wild Bill Caldwell

05-03-2007 05:33:30




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 Re: gas price game in reply to hay, 05-03-2007 05:17:42  
I beleive gas prices are way to high...I don't care how much it is in other countries,.....Why was it cheaper last year in Kansas (by 30 cents per gal.)Than it was in Louisian where it is produced? But.....With that said....If I were CEO of Exon and saw people payin' a dollar forty for a guart of water in My convience store I'd think I'm sellin' My gas way too cheap at three bucks a gallon.



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Ludwig

05-03-2007 10:04:18




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 05-03-2007 05:33:30  
Different tax?
Kansas is on a pipeline I believe. Some states get big discounts because the pipelines run through them. New England gets the shaft because most gas comes in by tanker.



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Jiles

05-03-2007 05:43:53




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Wild Bill Caldwell, 05-03-2007 05:33:30  
I remember when a gallon of gas and a gallon of milk were within 2 or 3 cents of each other. What has a gallon of milk cost for the last few years. A nickel candy bar at that time was 5 cents, what does it cost now? I don't like the price of gas but I still thing it is a bargin, compared to the skyrocketing price of other products. Other countries have MUCH more TAX on their gasoline.



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RustyFarmall

05-03-2007 06:51:13




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 Re: gas price game in reply to Jiles, 05-03-2007 05:43:53  
You absolutely cannot compare the price of fuel to the price of a gallon af milk, unless you take into consideration the fact the price of milk has skyrocketed BECAUSE of the price of fuel. The cost of hauling milk or any thing else for that matter is extremely high directly because of the cost of the fuel, and guess what, the guy who owns that truck still isn"t making a decent wage.



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Joe Shmoe

05-04-2007 08:15:40




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 Re: gas price game in reply to RustyFarmall, 05-03-2007 06:51:13  
Maybe the fellas that belive 3 bucks is cheap, should try planting crops with gasoline tractors, and see how much of a bite it takes out of their operating expence. If they ever considered to legalize whiskey making for the average Joe farmer, we would be able to reduce the amount of oil consumption. Around here, there is Ethanol plants trying to pop up in every corner land plot they can get ahold of. Then the surrounding land owners file lawsuits to block them from building such plants to actually help out. Now the other side of the card is how much ethanol will drive up the price of corn per bushel. For the farmers that have to buy feed will pay more, due to the price of corn going up for demand to produce fuel. Food prices can go up as well. I think in the long run, cash crop farming will eventually pay off, but the fellas that raise their own crops to feed their animals, and feed us, but surely, in the future, there can be a special program that farmers can enroll into and lock in a price, contract feed orders, Im not sure how it can work. But I know what we are doing now, isnt gonna fly for long, we will eventually run out of money to even buy fuel for the brand new car/truck/farm tractor to even produce the crop to feed us and our livestock, let alone try to maintain a household with a family to feed. Take a drive in the future,, in the country sides where farms used to flourish, now deserted cause they cant afford to work for a living. Whiskey,, or ethanol, can be a solution, for our fuel problems, but if not careful in how its done, it will be just like gasoline, 5 dollars a gallon. Another note for ethanol production,, the farmers should have the reighns to control the price, after all, we grow the corn in our fields, instead of some fat cat rich person sitting behind a desk, thats getting rich off of gasoline prices. Would that be putting money back in our pockets, or where would it go?

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